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Team Fortress 2, now with leveling
...new weapons unlocked via achievements earned in the game.This reeks of bad idea...
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It's not an awful game. In fact, it's better than most team/objective based FPSs out there. But, at the same time, it has serious, fundamental flaws that limit its potential. Playing it casually for small amounts of time can still be fun, but playing it every day, like I would and did with many other games, is out of the question.
I feel like the game is dying a slow death. Once it's gone, nothing better will likely replace it for a long time. I have to get as much enjoyment out of it as I can while it still exists.
Also, will Natural Selection 2 ever come out?
Anyways, I agree it sounds like a bad move. But don't judge beforehand.
Now with TF2 if the weapon unlocks are going to be handled by the new style of achievements which are totally arbitrary, I can understand why you guys would get upset. It is something that needs to be handled carefully in order to be done well.
Because people can make their own servers, the "leveling" isn't even skill-based. People can just start their own empty server with their friends and sit around getting all the achievements and weapons. Yet another game where whoever spends the most time doing pointless manual labor gets more stuff.
What if I want to use the extra weapons in a LAN game when there is no net connection?
Again, the ranking system had little to no effect on gameplay. You could pick up the unlockable weapons from enemies you killed even if you haven't unlocked the weapons, you just couldn't spawn with them. Some were better in some aspects and worse in others but they didn't alter the specific classes in any way that dramatically unbalanced the game. I generally used the standard weapons because they were generally better for my style of gameplay.
Besides, I would argue that BF2 is a game of skill, much more so than TF2. Also, the system implements the idea of realism in the game that is similar to how real world armies work. You don't allow privates to have access to every single weapon and the Chinese armies will use different weapons than the American army. Yes, each side had asymmetrical weapon load-outs, but they were balanced.
I think that this argument is mostly fueled by your bias and claims of hate towards achievement based games. No matter how well done it is, as long as it contains any sort of merit based advancement, you are against it. It's unfortunate really that you can be so closed minded about an issue.
But while we're talking about it, I'm having a hard time understanding this BF2 thing. If I get ranks today, quit, then come back the next day, do I still have the ranks? Is it like money in Counter-Strike where it only lasts for the current game and it resets when you join a new game?
What BF2 did is very different from what TF2 is doing, I'd say. One of the two probably isn't going to work.
Unfortunately, just like the real world, there are some things you have to earn. Maybe I'm not like you, but I don't always expect to have everything handed to me on a silver platter.
If, as you say, the extra options are not better, just different, then they are just extra clutter and fluff.
Things like nuclear missiles in Command and Conquer, get out of jail free cards in Monopoly, or even the rocket launcher in Quake, are OK because you earn them within the context of the current game, and all players have equal opportunity to earn them within the context of the game. If I understand this BF mechanic correctly, it's like someone starting with $100 extra in the next game of Monopoly because they were the winner of the last game of Monopoly. That just doesn't make for decent multiplayer gaming.