Yeah, you guys have kinda shined the light on the fact that the last good chunk of episodes have been shitty and most are large ego stroke-a-thons. And so with that, I've unsubscribed as well. Might listen in the future if there's an episode that looks really good. We'll see.
I've unsubscribed from the podcast and based especially on Hungryjoe's attacks and Scrym's overbearing attitudes I don't want to post in the forum nor read it any more.
This is my last post. Apparently it's time to either find another show or use the experiences I've had in making the GD podcast and make a better one. Good luck Geeknights. You'll soon need it.
James M. Wallace Former long-time Geeknights listener Former host of Geek Democracy
I see the egomaniacs within Scott and Rym quite clearly, but that never really kept me from listening to the podcast before. I have, however, stopped listening almost entirely because I just haven't desired to listen, yet I listen to everyone other podcast I subscribe to still. Something has gone wrong with GN.
I guess I've noticed an amount of egotism in the podcast. However, I would say that what we hear is a reflection of what these guys do well. Why wouldn't their success boost their egos?
In general, people do feel proud of the things they have a high level of skill in. I know that in my life as an occasional writer, I feel extremely proud when I think I'm writing well. I totally pat myself on the back too. The difference is that I'm not on a podcast telling people about how great of a writer I am. If I had a podcast, you better believe that I would brag when (and if) I ever am published.
I would wager that anyone here who is involved in any creative endeavor gets a bit of an ego boost when their work is well received.
I think that Rym and Scott have achieved a lot: they have a successful, professional podcast and well received panels at cons. And they're 26 (27?). Yes, they have egos but those egos seem justified at least a little.
The podcast is hurting because there has not been enough Thursday episodes. Those give GeekNights it's flavor. There are a ton of podcast that talk about anime, video games, and technology, but there are not so many that talk about waiting in line, dodge ball, and dumpster diving.
You know, I think the problems with the show are less about egotism, and more about coming across as cranky. I think that they are tired all the good cheer leeches out of the show. Rym has had a huge ego as long as I've known him, but when he is in a good mood he sounds like "Weee, I'm awesome!" as opposed to "Kinda Arrogant Jerk." I think it's less that the egos have gotten bigger, and more that they have gotten far more cynical and jaded. (And also exhausted.)
What if they did a show about egotism and why they act the way they do? I would even offer to be on it, to argue the case for humility.
You know, I think the problems with the show are less about egotism, and more about coming across as cranky. I think that they are tired all the good cheer leeches out of the show. Rym has had a huge ego as long as I've known him, but when he is in a good mood he sounds like "Weee, I'm awesome!" as opposed to "Kinda Arrogant Jerk." I think it's less that the egos have gotten bigger, and more that they have gotten far more cynical and jaded. (And also exhausted.)
What if they did a show about egotism and why they act the way they do? I would even offer to be on it, to argue the case for humility.
What if they did a show about egotism and why they act the way they do? I would even offer to be on it, to argue the case for humility.
That would be hilarious. As for their ego's, to quote a self-proclaimed awesome man, "Meh.". In light of these kind of arguments, I have noticed myself to postpone listening to the show, instead choosing to listen to Fast Karate, Skeptiod, Control Point and VtO before listening to GeekNights, but I still have it in my feed, unlike several other podcasts. I dumped the Simply Hear feed and only take a peek once in a while to see if there's an interesting Definitive Word episode, and I dumped The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, too long and boring, even though they talk about awesome and interesting topics, it's so boring to me.
It would be a show where Rym and Scott would list their accomplishments in academia and social situations and then proudly comment on why they have earned the right to be proud of their lives, whilst the people who don't like hearing about how awesome someone is will just cringe. I can't think of any real way to argue against them both about why being egotistical is bad other than it bores people.
It would be a show where Rym and Scott would list their accomplishments in academia and social situations and then proudly comment on why they have earned the right to be proud of their lives, whilst the people who don't like hearing about how awesome someone is will just cringe. I can't think of any real way to argue against them both about why being egotistical is bad other than it bores people.
But, sure, would be interesting.
There's a short ride from being egotistical and becoming arrogant.
I've unsubscribed from the podcast and based especially on Hungryjoe's attacks and Scrym's overbearing attitudes I don't want to post in the forum nor read it any more.
This is my last post. Apparently it's time to either find another show or use the experiences I've had in making the GD podcast and make a better one. Good luck Geeknights. You'll soon need it.
James M. Wallace Former long-time Geeknights listener Former host of Geek Democracy
I was hoping someone would post an image like that soon. Sheesh, so you don't really like the podcast anymore. Big deal. No need to get on the drama llama. 9_9
Also, major concurrence with Emily's suggestion for a show about egotism. I would very much like to hear Scrym give a straightforward, level defense of themselves and their attitudes at length. Not saying that their everything about their attitudes is totally exempt from criticism, but seriously, come on; people are blowing this shit way out of proportion as of late.
I don't get it either, all this talk about ego and arrogance. They are experts in their fields and mainly stick to topics they know enough about to be interesting and informative. Ever listen to The Deffinitive Word? Those guys seriously have no clue about any topic they discuss, and while entertaining in some ways, I'd rather listen to people who either know shit or are willing to read about shit. So what if someone comes across as having a big ego? If you don't agree, don't listen. If you are not entertained, stop downloading. If you don't like someone's personality, take a break.
My girlfriend and I are successful professionals in our field and we do a podcast. In it we like to talk about good shows we've done and things we are proud of achieving. Turns out we have a lot of good shows and we achieve a lot. For example, we were asked to make a podcast that consisted of an audio diary from a street theater festival. So we went for it, and at the start I said we were aiming for second place in the competition, as we had come first at the same event the year before. By the end of the weekend and the end of the podcast, we had taken first place again. What do we do in this situation? Be humble? Nope... we fucking rock! Why would we be entertainers if we didn't think we were the best?
Same with Rym and Scott. If they didn't think they were the best I don't think I'd be so interested.
What if they did a show about egotism and why they act the way they do? I would even offer to be on it, to argue the case for humility.
I'd be up for that is if it was like this:
It would be a show where Rym and Scott would list their accomplishments in academia and social situations and then proudly comment on why they have earned the right to be proud of their lives, whilst the people who don't like hearing about how awesome someone is will just cringe. I can't think of any real way to argue against them both about why being egotistical is bad other than it bores people.
For the record, I have stated many times in this thread that I have no problem with Scrym's ego. The only problem I've had is shows that are ego driven and not content driven. They can have as huge an ego as they want. I just want good content along with the ego.
What if they did a show about egotism and why they act the way they do? I would even offer to be on it, to argue the case for humility.
I'd be up for that is if it was like this:
It would be a show where Rym and Scott would list their accomplishments in academia and social situations and then proudly comment on why they have earned the right to be proud of their lives, whilst the people who don't like hearing about how awesome someone is will just cringe. I can't think of any real way to argue against them both about why being egotistical is bad other than it bores people.
Odd. I think it's because I highlighted (highlit...) that post, then hit "quote", but I highlighted it from a post of yours where you quoted gomidog. Interesting...
Clay: "I'm am the King of the World! I'm pretty-!" Announcer: "You're not that pretty."
He was pretty wound up, that's for sure. What a fighter, though.
Well he won the Title Match, he is basically the real world equivalent of Rocky Balboa... no scratch that, he is the inspiration for Rocky Balboa. Basically he had a hundred to nothing shot, and won. I'd feel the same way if that happened.
WikiWikiWiki: Sylvester Stallone was inspired to create the film by the famous fight between Muhammad Ali and Chuck Wepner. Wepner had been TKO'd in the 15th round by Ali, but nobody ever expected him to last as long as he did. Wepner recalls in early January, 2000, "Sly (Stallone) called me about two weeks after the Ali fight and told me he was gonna make the movie."
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Might listen in the future if there's an episode that looks really good. We'll see.
In general, people do feel proud of the things they have a high level of skill in. I know that in my life as an occasional writer, I feel extremely proud when I think I'm writing well. I totally pat myself on the back too. The difference is that I'm not on a podcast telling people about how great of a writer I am. If I had a podcast, you better believe that I would brag when (and if) I ever am published.
I would wager that anyone here who is involved in any creative endeavor gets a bit of an ego boost when their work is well received.
I think that Rym and Scott have achieved a lot: they have a successful, professional podcast and well received panels at cons. And they're 26 (27?). Yes, they have egos but those egos seem justified at least a little.
Stop doing con report episodes.
What if they did a show about egotism and why they act the way they do? I would even offer to be on it, to argue the case for humility.
But, sure, would be interesting.
Also, major concurrence with Emily's suggestion for a show about egotism. I would very much like to hear Scrym give a straightforward, level defense of themselves and their attitudes at length. Not saying that their everything about their attitudes is totally exempt from criticism, but seriously, come on; people are blowing this shit way out of proportion as of late.
My girlfriend and I are successful professionals in our field and we do a podcast. In it we like to talk about good shows we've done and things we are proud of achieving. Turns out we have a lot of good shows and we achieve a lot. For example, we were asked to make a podcast that consisted of an audio diary from a street theater festival. So we went for it, and at the start I said we were aiming for second place in the competition, as we had come first at the same event the year before. By the end of the weekend and the end of the podcast, we had taken first place again. What do we do in this situation? Be humble? Nope... we fucking rock! Why would we be entertainers if we didn't think we were the best?
Same with Rym and Scott. If they didn't think they were the best I don't think I'd be so interested.
Interesting...
Clay: "I'm am the King of the World! I'm pretty-!"
Announcer: "You're not that pretty."
He was pretty wound up, that's for sure. What a fighter, though.
Sylvester Stallone was inspired to create the film by the famous fight between Muhammad Ali and Chuck Wepner. Wepner had been TKO'd in the 15th round by Ali, but nobody ever expected him to last as long as he did. Wepner recalls in early January, 2000, "Sly (Stallone) called me about two weeks after the Ali fight and told me he was gonna make the movie."