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  • It would seem my philosophy 205 class is about as lively as a graveyard. About five or six people (including myself) contribute to the discussion, the rest just kinda sit there looking bemused.

    I had a minor in philosophy and was always bored to tears by the actual classes.
  • AmpAmp
    edited January 2014

    It would seem my philosophy 205 class is about as lively as a graveyard. About five or six people (including myself) contribute to the discussion, the rest just kinda sit there looking bemused.

    That sounds about right. Do you have the one person who is really pushing either headonism or solopsism as their edgy alternative.

    Got shot down for another job interview. The gutting part is that it went really well, everyone was really positive and making the right noises. Get a call later saying that I didn't get the job as they wanted to look at the quieter people in the group. Also meant I ended up being awak for 23 hours straight before 5 sleep and now back to work. I am in a golden mood.

    Edit; Also this is gross but I had to tell someone. I had a strang lump on my neck. Felt really odd, so I did the only logical thing and squeezed it. The worst smelling gunk ever covered my thumb and stunk up my hands. I have no idea what it was but in the cold light of the evening there is no sign of it.
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  • edited January 2014
    Amp said:

    Edit; Also this is gross but I had to tell someone. I had a strang lump on my neck. Felt really odd, so I did the only logical thing and squeezed it. The worst smelling gunk ever covered my thumb and stunk up my hands. I have no idea what it was but in the cold light of the evening there is no sign of it.

    Sounds like you got a sebaceous cyst. I remember accidentally finding one of those myself and it smelled awful. I had to squeeze it for about 15 minutes to get it all out.
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  • Amp said:

    Edit; Also this is gross but I had to tell someone. I had a strang lump on my neck. Felt really odd, so I did the only logical thing and squeezed it. The worst smelling gunk ever covered my thumb and stunk up my hands. I have no idea what it was but in the cold light of the evening there is no sign of it.

    Sounds like you got a sebaceous cyst. I remember accidentally finding one of those myself and it smelled awful. I had to squeeze it for about 15 minutes to get it all out.
    It was one quick squeeze then gone. Strangly satisfying, but that is the case with most spots.
  • I ordered three records from Orange Tree Records, and one of them came scratched.
  • I cut the tip of my finger off with my brand new knife. It doesn't hurt much, but I can't type with my right index finger anymore. So many typos.
  • edited January 2014
    Amp said:

    It would seem my philosophy 205 class is about as lively as a graveyard. About five or six people (including myself) contribute to the discussion, the rest just kinda sit there looking bemused.

    That sounds about right. Do you have the one person who is really pushing either headonism or solopsism as their edgy alternative.
    Yes, solipsism. Unfortunately she's the professor.
    Post edited by Jack Draigo on
  • Solipsism isn't an edgy alternative, it's the rational default. ;)
  • Walker said:

    Solipsism isn't an edgy alternative, it's the rational default. ;)

    By edgy and alternative I assume you mean asinine and stupid.
  • Solipsism is boring: you can use it to argue against pretty much any proposition, but there aren't that many interesting results you can get out of it.
  • Solipsism seemed to be the default in the discussion we had on the Experience Machine.
  • I just find it useful to remind myself that everything I know and perceive, however real it may be, is a mental construct. Keeps the thoughts from getting too rigid. I don't think I'd ever use that premise to argue about the nature of reality, though.
  • Solipsism is completely irrelevant. Even if we were all 100% made up, how would that change what we do/decide? It wouldn't because we still perceive ourselves and our world the same way regardless of whether we're all made up or not.

    Solipsism is completely non-utilitarian and therefore can go fuck itself. It has zero impact on our reality other than being a topic of discussion.
  • My i7 930 4.2 ghz overclock has become unstable after being rock solid for 4 years.
    I'm running at the pedestrian stock 2.8 ghz.

    Don't know whether I should put the time into seeing if there is stability at 3.8 or 4.0 ghz.

    Since it's a Nehalem the upgrade will need a new CPU, motherboard and RAM (plus I've been waiting for an upgrade point to grab an SSD) but I don't have the spare cash for it all.
  • edited January 2014
    Nuri said:

    Solipsism is completely irrelevant. Even if we were all 100% made up, how would that change what we do/decide? It wouldn't because we still perceive ourselves and our world the same way regardless of whether we're all made up or not.

    Speak for yourself. Raw sense input doesn't change, sure, but solipsism changes how I process it. It's a basis for meta-cognition.

    (not that it matters since we're 100% deterministic anyway, *fart noise*)
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  • Solipsism allows for doubt of experience. It has no other use.
  • That's backwards. It's not that solipsism allows doubt, but rather that doubt allows solipsism. Skepticism is what is important, whereas most of what the term "solipsism" refers to is merely a poor application of said skepticism.
  • I accept that I have no perspective but a solipsistic one. All experience is suspect, and I can never fully express any idea outside of myself or verify in any absolute sense from where any stimulus originated.

    If I can never know from where stimuli arrive, I must accept that doubt and react in a consistent manner.
  • Solipsism exist solely so that people can go "Yeah but how do you know it exists" in the same fucktard manner that makes them seem educated. In reality as soon as you bring it up in any philosophical debate you are looked at like a child that has eaten the glue.
  • "Oh yeah, Google says they're the second most popular social network, but all those active users Google claims are fake, they're just people who have a Google account. Facebook doesn't do shit like that, and that's why they're beating Google Plus so badly. Google just wants to revive their failure of a shitty social network."

    Yeah, right buddy. Right.
  • If I can't, from an objective standpoint, observe a system I can't determine how it works. Solipsism doesn't matter, because even if I am being fed sensory input directly to my brain how the fuck would I tell? The Matrix IS reality for those plugged in, and it is only by pulling them out that you can show them it was virtual.

    So fuck off with Solipsism, what I perceive is reality until I can stand outside of this universe.
  • Rym said:

    I accept that I have no perspective but a solipsistic one. All experience is suspect, and I can never fully express any idea outside of myself or verify in any absolute sense from where any stimulus originated.

    If I can never know from where stimuli arrive, I must accept that doubt and react in a consistent manner.

    Yes, it is important to accept that one's experience is necessarily subjective and not necessarily reflective of objective reality, but the key issue I have with solipsism as it is normally posited is that it fails to follow through on its core principles, and consequently becomes misleading.

    Solipsism correctly recognizes that one's experience of reality is filtered through the mind, and hence is somewhat suspect. However, it fails to recognize that one's experience of the mind itself is also filtered through the mind, and hence is suspect in the exact same way. Your thoughts, your logic, your reasoning - all are suspect.

    Given that, there's not much that's all that special about the subjective nature of experience that warrants special treatment by solipsism. It's not just experience - everything is suspect, and you can't be certain of anything at all. However, looking at it pragmatically, it's clear that one does not need 100% certainty in order to act in the first place.

    In short, even this weakest form of solipsism that you propose as the only useful aspect of solipsism - the idea of doubting one's senses - is one that it presents in an incomplete manner, and which is conceptualized far more cleanly in philosophical ideas such as fallibilism and/or philosophical skepticism.
  • edited January 2014

    If I can't, from an objective standpoint, observe a system I can't determine how it works.

    I disagree. Your standpoint is always subjective, but nonetheless that subjective standpoint is generally sufficient to draw objective conclusions about reality.

    Solipsism doesn't matter, because even if I am being fed sensory input directly to my brain how the fuck would I tell? The Matrix IS reality for those plugged in, and it is only by pulling them out that you can show them it was virtual.

    That's not really true; you don't actually need to be taken outside the Matrix to conclude that it is virtual. It is enough to experience phenomena that make the most sense in the context of a computer simulation rather than a normal physical universe - e.g running into things like hacking, bugs, glitches, evidence of hardware limitations; these kinds of phenomena could easily be sufficient evidence that you're plugged into the Matrix.

    So fuck off with Solipsism, what I perceive is reality until I can stand outside of this universe.

    I agree with the "fuck off", but "what I perceive is reality" is definitely an overly simplistic viewpoint.
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  • It's been so long since I've done any significant video gaming that I actually developed "video thumb" over the weekend. :(
  • I have discovered why so many people tell you to avoid electric heat in residences.
  • http://drrichswier.com/2014/01/13/chris-christie-is-not-just-corrupt-hes-compromised/

    Well I have many words, most of which are inappropriate for polite conversation. The author's credentials are skeezy as fuck and I can't find even a Fox article to correlate. Every other site reporting this seems to be extreme far-right wing nutjob sites.
  • I have discovered why so many people tell you to avoid electric heat in residences.

    Yeaaaaaap

  • http://drrichswier.com/2014/01/13/chris-christie-is-not-just-corrupt-hes-compromised/

    Well I have many words, most of which are inappropriate for polite conversation. The author's credentials are skeezy as fuck and I can't find even a Fox article to correlate. Every other site reporting this seems to be extreme far-right wing nutjob sites.

    Yup, there is a significant probability that this post is the ravings of a madman.
  • Learning about radians using pi when I know tau exists and makes 100 times more sense.
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