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Didn't Obama get elected by appealing to the passions of the masses? A passion for Hope and change?
Cremlian, could you give me a link to the article you got that pic from?
Didn't Obama get elected by appealing to the passions of the masses? A passion for Hope and change?So wait, I'm confused. Liberals are dispassionate, but liberals elected Obama by being...passionate? Can somebody explain this to me?
Didn't Obama get elected by appealing to the passions of the masses? A passion for Hope and change?So wait, I'm confused. Liberals are dispassionate, but liberals elected Obama by being...passionate? Can somebody explain this to me?The argument is an over simplification, baseless bias, false dichotomy and a manufactured "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.
I haven't had time to read much of this thread, so take this with a grain of salt.Here is what I don't understand. People are complaining about the conservative movement being disruptive at "town-hall" style meetings. They say it's hypocritical, they say it's manufactured, etc.Who cares? It happened and, more importantly, it had a significant impact. It's provided countless hours of coverage and has placed the Democrats on the defensive. You're much better talking about how to counter this than complaining about milk that's already been spilled.Time is the enemy of health care reform. Unless the Dems get the train back on the track, how long do you expect the blue dogs to hold out? Pelosi calling protestors un-American didn't help.
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To put it more succinctly, democracy cannot possibly succeed, because it will eventually descend into this mess.
Earlier in this thread I mentioned that the current bills being worked on would be a boon for big business. I'm surprised no one asked me to elaborate on that point.
We are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.
Pointing out that it is despicable, manufactured, and propagates ignorant and dangerous claims is responding to it and calling out those creating the stir.
. . . so it's the Democrat's fault.
My point was that the Dems need to elicit a fact based rebuttal to the hecklers,
. . . so it's the Democrat's fault.No, it's not. I'm just saying that the Dems, if they have facts on their side, need to brandish that weapon loud and clear.This is nobody's "fault." It's a national debate. The question is how to debate effectively. I've always felt that "here are the facts" was a better tactic than "you're a bully." The Dems don't have to stay calm. They just have to use the most effective message.Here's one interesting fact. Look at life expectancy by country. If we have the "best" health care system, why do so many countries with socialized health care have higher life expectancies?
Maybe because you haven't bothered to answer any of the challenges to the utterly idiotic points you've offered up otherwise? Of course it's good for business; that's obvious. That's why nobody understands your trepidations, except as useless fear-mongering.
I don't know why you are so upset about the protests. Didn't Democrats bus in protesters back in 2005 when Bush was trying to privatize a portion of Social Security?
That's because too many people on here are under the false assumption that I support all of the things I post about . . . The whole thing with the birthers? Those folks are bat-shit crazy but Donofrio's question has never been answered, so I keep looking for smart people who can answer the question. Sadly none have been found.
As for Donofrio, people here have tried and tried to help you with that and you have shown time and again that you are simply too stupid to be helped.
As for Donofrio, people here have tried and tried to help you with that and you have shown time and again that you are simply too stupid to be helped.Then please cite the law that defines who is and who is not a Natural Born citizen. Or at the very least cite the law that clearly shows President Obama to be a Natural Born Citizen.The only answer I have consistently received on this question is that there is no law and there is no answer.
The only answer I have consistently received on this question is that there is no law and there is no answer.