@Luke - Man, my deepest of sympathies. I know how much that sucks, and my heart goes out to you, man.
I'm always a fan of disguise/dressing up/costuming, so I vote for 2. You get to see the show, there's a low likelihood of trouble, and it's fun. If you swing it right, you could use the disguise supplies for other costuming endeavors down the road. Any joking aside, though, you really should be able to just go without trouble, in an ideal world. Too bad it doesn't always work that way. Best of luck, hope you get to see the show and somehow or another avoid trouble.
I'm thinking that way, but another problem arises - this is a woman who shared a bed and most of her waking hours with me for about 12 months. She recognizes me in pretty much every way, meaning it will have to be some pretty serious disguise work and behavior modification - still, I'm up to the challenge, and it's the leading option.
Go with option 1. If a fight does break out (and it might not - just don't start shit), you'll most likely be in an environment with a lot of people willing to break up a fight. Don't let someone else dictate how you can and cannot enjoy yourself. Is this guy your boss? No? Then fuck him.
It wouldn't go on long enough for the crowd to break it up. His only advantage would be that he's more muscular than I am. I'm far better and more extensively trained, more experienced, and I'll be expecting trouble, just for a start. Frankly, If he starts a fight, It will be over very, very quickly - but that will mean trouble of the legal sort - As I said, The police would be at the door with a rather different version of events in their ears, and the english courts do not have a history of being kind to non-citizens starting trouble.
As Churba's having a tough time getting a job at the moment, contact with scum-bags such as Kerion should be avoided.
This is quite true, things are pretty rough right now, and I'm happy to avoid trouble with the chavvy little saaaaaaaaaaaarf lun-don prick - however, I'm under no illusion that this won't get back to her in some fashion - His and her trawling facebook for information about me, along with pushing her friends that I'm still friends with, so on, is far from unheard of, so there is a good chance he'll get about to some aggressive posturing and harassment again.
Churba: Go and just avoid them. If you run into them, then you should just be nice and non-confrontational. Even if they are assholes, that does not mean you need to be. No fight needs to take place and your costume idea is straight out of a bad movie. Just go and have a good time.
It wouldn't go on long enough for the crowd to break it up. His only advantage would be that he's more muscular than I am. I'm far better and more extensively trained, more experienced, and I'll be expecting trouble, just for a start. Frankly, If he starts a fight, It will be over very, very quickly - but that will mean trouble of the legal sort - As I said, The police would be at the door with a rather different version of events in their ears, and the english courts do not have a history of being kind to non-citizens starting trouble.
Couldn't you just restrain him in a non-violent fashion? If he swings at you, dodge and trip him or some such thing? And don't they allow for self-defense over there?
The thing is, I'm thinking that if you went disguised, they might still notice you and your striking green eyes, and that might make the situation even worse.
Churba: Go and just avoid them. If you run into them, then you should just be nice and non-confrontational. Even if they are assholes, that does not mean you need to be. No fight needs to take place and your costume idea is straight out of a bad movie. Just go and have a good time.
If he will have a better time in a costume, then why not? Good things can come from bad movies.
Churba: Go and just avoid them. If you run into them, then you should just be nice and non-confrontational. Even if they are assholes, that does not mean you need to be. No fight needs to take place and your costume idea is straight out of a bad movie. Just go and have a good time.
I think a happy medium is necessary - Because if the Scumbag sees me, he will swing on me, without question, there unfortunately isn't an option to be non-confrontational - He may be just your regular jock bully, but he's utterly convinced that he'll win, so he won't think twice about going for the more combative option, rather than talking.
I think best idea is simply to just dye+restyle the hair and beard, wear my glasses, and alter my behaviors enough that It's not recognizable. Prostetics shouldn't be nessassary, you're right, we're moving into bad movie territory there.
Boo-yah: I found a couple of job positions on my campus job posting site that are perfect for me. The employer even came to campus and helped me update my resume so that it is exactly what they are looking for.
Fail: I had submitted my resume before they helped me update it (I didn't know they were coming to campus). Therefore the old one was still in the system. No big deal right? I go there to change it, but I discover that the website won't let me because it had no option to. For some reason whoever designed it never thought that someone might ever want to re-submit a resume. I called the contact number on the site and got directed to a not so bright woman. I had to explain this very simple dilemma to her for about 25 minutes before she finally understood and directed me to someone else.
Resulting Boo-yah: The person she directed me to was a smart person and helped me within 5 minutes, and now I am all set.
Side Fail: The stupid lady made me go over my monthly minutes, and this was the last day of my cycle. Grr.
So why is this dude so pissed? I know you said he's a psycho, but he would at least need to have SOME reason to start swingin'.
It's a long, long story - suffice to say for now, the start of it was that he didn't appreciate finding out that the start of his relationship was as "The other guy", and that I didn't just cower when he tried pushing me around.
I didn't just cower when he tried pushing me around.
And you continue to show that he can't push you around by...avoiding him?
I'm just saying, if you really want to show that this guy doesn't affect you, then just show up. Don't go out of your way to find them, and if you see them, don't stop and chat, but going through a bunch of ridiculous crap to avoid being inconvenienced is, well, stupid.
I'm not saying you should go looking for trouble, but the fact that there might be a small amount of trouble shouldn't deter you. You're more than capable of handling it.
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Option 1 and bring a friend.
This is a terrible idea. Do not do it. You don't want to start a fight, and showing up in superior numbers will automatically put Douchebag McGee on the defensive. He'll feel trapped and intimidated, and that will guarantee trouble.
I didn't just cower when he tried pushing me around.
And you continue to show that he can't push you around by...avoiding him?
No, I've shown him quite adequately, in such a manner that I didn't need to maintain a presence.
I'm not saying you should golookingfor trouble, but the fact that there might be a small amount of trouble shouldn't deter you. You're more than capable of handling it.
True - I am more than capable, and it would be little more than a small amount at the time - it's the long term effect that would cause the most trouble, mostly of the legal sort. I would most likely win that too, but I'm not sure of it, and I can't afford the expense right now.
I'm just saying, if you really want to show that this guy doesn't affect you, then just show up. Don't go out of your way to find them, and if you see them, don't stop and chat, but going through a bunch of ridiculous crap to avoid being inconvenienced is, well, stupid.
Like I said a few posts ago, if I go, I'm not going for the elaborate plan. It's either basic disguise, or none. The thing is, while he doesn't bother me, I don't want to cause the Ex any real trouble or strife, I've no ill feelings towards her and wish her no harm, I just want nothing to do with her unless certain conditions are met, and frankly, the conditions, while reasonable, are pretty unlikely to be met.
I don't want to cause the Ex any real trouble or strife,
But your presence wouldn't be the cause of that. If Douchey Cuntwaffleson wants to start a fight just because you exist, that's his fault, not yours. If it causes friction at all, it should be between Douchenozzle the Mighty and your ex. If your ex blames you for a fight you didn't cause, then what would that say about her?
I go back to my original point: going in disguise just calls attention to the strife, and feeds into it. You'd be reminding the guy that he hates you, and call attention to the situation by trying to actively avoid it. That'll just agitate his no-doubt small brain, and Ugg Rockdouche will just become more agitated.
Show up as you, and act perfectly normally. If he takes a swing, deal with it, but otherwise, don't call attention to him in any way, shape, or form. He wants the attention. He wants to know that you feel the need to go out of your way to avoid him. I'm sure you already know that, but it never hurts to reiterate that.
Just make sure that if you run into him, you do it in a public place where there are lots of witnesses, and try to talk him out of whatever douchey behavior he tries. That's as good as it gets.
This is a terrible idea. Do not do it. You don't want to start a fight, and showing up in superior numbers will automatically put Douchebag McGee on the defensive. He'll feel trapped and intimidated, and that will guarantee trouble.
I disagree. Going alone when he may have other people with his is a bad idea. He's going to think he's got the advantage and you're vulnerable. I'm not talking about showing up with a horde of friends out for blood. Bring someone to make sure you don't get jumped from behind. He'll think twice about running up and sucker punching you if you've got a wing man.
I'm not talking about showing up with a horde of friends out for blood. Bring someone to make sure you don't get jumped from behind. He'll think twice about running up and sucker punching you if you've got a wing man.
911 on speed dial and, if they're legal where you are, a stungun. If trouble happens, get him arrested. Preferably, have someone around to film any issues. Done in one.
I disagree. Going alone when he may have other people with his is a bad idea. He's going to think he's got the advantage and you're vulnerable. I'm not talking about showing up with a horde of friends out for blood. Bring someone to make sure you don't get jumped from behind. He'll think twice about running up and sucker punching you if you've got a wing man.
So what if he's got 6 friends with him? He can distract your wingman and then sucker punch you. Clearly, the only option is to bring more friends than him, and that logic will have you running down a paranoid spiral.
Churba can clearly handle a fight on his own, and I doubt anyone is dumb enough to engage in a mass beating in a public area in broad daylight. Show up with a friend, though, and I'm willing to be that the guy would take that as a challenge.
I disagree. Going alone when he may have other people with his is a bad idea. He's going to think he's got the advantage and you're vulnerable. I'm not talking about showing up with a horde of friends out for blood. Bring someone to make sure you don't get jumped from behind. He'll think twice about running up and sucker punching you if you've got a wing man.
So what if he's got 6 friends with him? He can distract your wingman and then sucker punch you. Clearly, the only option is to bring more friends than him, and that logic will have you running down a paranoid spiral.
Indeed! Even if you bring an infinite number of friends, you still might not be safe. For example, let's say that both of you bring a countably infinite number of friends, both numbered 1,2,3,... If he gets all of his even-numbered friends to distract the counterparts that are half their number (2 distracts 1, 4 distracts 2, etc.) he still has all of his odd-numbered friends left to go for you, but all of your friends are distracted! That's an infinite number of odd-numbered friends going for you, Churba - even you couldn't handle that. In this case you could at least strategize - e.g. by doing the same thing as him. However, if he has an uncountably infinite number of friends and yours is only countably infinite, you're royally fucked. No matter what your friends do, he's still going to have an uncountably infinite number of friends left over. Even if each of your countably infinite number of friends can handle a countably infinite number of his friends, you're still fucked.
Lesson: Don't mess with someone who has an uncountably infinite number of friends.
I'm running several panels including the (in)famous The Yaoi-ing Game.
The fail is that it's at 4 AM! 4 AM! Who goes to panels that late (or early)! It seems like they are experimenting with 24hr panels like video rooms. I think this is not a very good idea unless you are a hyper insomniac attendee.
Precisely. Which means: don't bother. If you're worried about the presence of other people, there's no way to actually prepare for it, except to be in the open public.
Show up with a friend, though, and I'm willing to be that the guy would take that as a challenge.
That's really assuming Douchenozzle knows Churba will be there. And considering this is a concert, how likely is it that he will enlist friends of his to help out just in case Churba is there? Is he going to pay for them all to go? I suppose we'd have to ask Churba is this guy is really so paranoid that he would have protection at a concert that Churba might show up to. As far as I'm concerned, I agree with templar fully. If Churba has an extra ticket, bring someone along. Even if he or she can't help prevent a fight, it's an extra witness.
Oh, the Hairy Bikers is a band? I assumed they were, well, hairy bikers.
In that case, there's really nothing to worry about. Odds are they'll just escort the one guy out, if it even gets that far. The crowd will probably intervene the moment somebody swings.
Unless it's a punk show, in which case, you're fucked.
Oh, the Hairy Bikers is a band? I assumed they were, well, hairy bikers.
:-/ I actually don't know, I just assumed it was something like that. In any case, based on what was said, it will likely be a concert-like setting, i.e. a big group of people standing around.
Posted By: TheWhaleSharkSo what if he's got 6 friends with him? He can distract your wingman and then sucker punch you. Clearly, the only option is to bring more friends than him, and that logic will have you running down a paranoid spiral. Their is always a lot of "what if's." What if he follows me into the bathroom or what if they jump me when I'm walking back to the car? Changing that 'me' to an 'us' can help the situation.
Churba can clearly handle a fight on his own,,,
You can't say that. I dough this guy wants anything resembling a fair fight. Sure one-on-one in a ring with a bell, he's hammer his face in but this isn't that situation.
I doubt anyone is dumb enough to engage in a mass beating in a public area in broad daylight.
People are idiots. Dumb testosterone driven ass clowns especially. Rym's got the right idea about the cell phone. I may skip the stun gun.
Show up with a friend, though, and I'm willing to bet that the guy would take that as a challenge.
And I'm willing to bet that showing up without one leaves you in a situation I would avoid.
I'm not talking about showing up with a horde of friends out for blood. Bring someone to make sure you don't get jumped from behind. He'll think twice about running up and sucker punching you if you've got a wing man.
911 on speed dial and, if they're legal where you are, a stungun. If trouble happens, get him arrested. Preferably, have someone around to film any issues. Done in one.
I have to agree with this. If you have it on film, it'll be easy to get him to back down before ever having to go to trial once the whole matter is over.
I'm far better and more extensively trained, more experienced, and I'll be expecting trouble, just for a start. Frankly, If he starts a fight, It will be over very, very quickly
Churba can handle himself in a fight.
I know that there's an infinite number of "what if's;" that was my point. If you think you're going to be outnumbered, you're just going to wind up going in a circle of paranoid logic. If you know you're going to be outnumbered, or have a reason to suspect that you might be, then taking a friend makes sense.
The cell phone is a very good idea. Having a friend to videotape would be a good idea, but only if that person makes it seem like they're not actually with you. If Douchebag the Cro-Mag suspects something, he'll probably fly into a rage.
In an unknown situation, you can only control for yourself.
I see no reason why taking a friend to a social event like a concert would be seen as a challenge. If this guy is dumb enough to swing at you any time he sees you, then it's probably not going to make things worse to have a friend with you. It will provide someone who, at the least, can be a witness and potentially a deterrent to a fight. I would not advise that friend to get physical if something does happen though...it's a much better idea for that friend to be the FIRST ONE to report the problem to the police. Often the attitude of the cops is determined by the first story they hear, and if the reporter is on your side, then that could help things.
I don't know what the laws are over there, but if there's no provision for self-defense and some sort of public defense for people who can't afford lawyers (if you don't have a job, you would probably qualify), then I think we found another reason for you to move here. You should send us all resumes so we can try to get you hired.
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The thing is, I'm thinking that if you went disguised, they might still notice you and your striking green eyes, and that might make the situation even worse.
I think best idea is simply to just dye+restyle the hair and beard, wear my glasses, and alter my behaviors enough that It's not recognizable. Prostetics shouldn't be nessassary, you're right, we're moving into bad movie territory there.
Fail: I had submitted my resume before they helped me update it (I didn't know they were coming to campus). Therefore the old one was still in the system. No big deal right? I go there to change it, but I discover that the website won't let me because it had no option to. For some reason whoever designed it never thought that someone might ever want to re-submit a resume. I called the contact number on the site and got directed to a not so bright woman. I had to explain this very simple dilemma to her for about 25 minutes before she finally understood and directed me to someone else.
Resulting Boo-yah: The person she directed me to was a smart person and helped me within 5 minutes, and now I am all set.
Side Fail: The stupid lady made me go over my monthly minutes, and this was the last day of my cycle. Grr.
I'm just saying, if you really want to show that this guy doesn't affect you, then just show up. Don't go out of your way to find them, and if you see them, don't stop and chat, but going through a bunch of ridiculous crap to avoid being inconvenienced is, well, stupid.
I'm not saying you should go looking for trouble, but the fact that there might be a small amount of trouble shouldn't deter you. You're more than capable of handling it.
EDIT: This is a terrible idea. Do not do it. You don't want to start a fight, and showing up in superior numbers will automatically put Douchebag McGee on the defensive. He'll feel trapped and intimidated, and that will guarantee trouble.
The thing is, while he doesn't bother me, I don't want to cause the Ex any real trouble or strife, I've no ill feelings towards her and wish her no harm, I just want nothing to do with her unless certain conditions are met, and frankly, the conditions, while reasonable, are pretty unlikely to be met.
I go back to my original point: going in disguise just calls attention to the strife, and feeds into it. You'd be reminding the guy that he hates you, and call attention to the situation by trying to actively avoid it. That'll just agitate his no-doubt small brain, and Ugg Rockdouche will just become more agitated.
Show up as you, and act perfectly normally. If he takes a swing, deal with it, but otherwise, don't call attention to him in any way, shape, or form. He wants the attention. He wants to know that you feel the need to go out of your way to avoid him. I'm sure you already know that, but it never hurts to reiterate that.
Just make sure that if you run into him, you do it in a public place where there are lots of witnesses, and try to talk him out of whatever douchey behavior he tries. That's as good as it gets.
Churba can clearly handle a fight on his own, and I doubt anyone is dumb enough to engage in a mass beating in a public area in broad daylight. Show up with a friend, though, and I'm willing to be that the guy would take that as a challenge.
Lesson: Don't mess with someone who has an uncountably infinite number of friends.
Fuck yeah, Hilbert's Grand Hotel!
The fail is that it's at 4 AM! 4 AM! Who goes to panels that late (or early)! It seems like they are experimenting with 24hr panels like video rooms. I think this is not a very good idea unless you are a hyper insomniac attendee.
In that case, there's really nothing to worry about. Odds are they'll just escort the one guy out, if it even gets that far. The crowd will probably intervene the moment somebody swings.
Unless it's a punk show, in which case, you're fucked.
I know that there's an infinite number of "what if's;" that was my point. If you think you're going to be outnumbered, you're just going to wind up going in a circle of paranoid logic. If you know you're going to be outnumbered, or have a reason to suspect that you might be, then taking a friend makes sense.
The cell phone is a very good idea. Having a friend to videotape would be a good idea, but only if that person makes it seem like they're not actually with you. If Douchebag the Cro-Mag suspects something, he'll probably fly into a rage.
In an unknown situation, you can only control for yourself.
I see no reason why taking a friend to a social event like a concert would be seen as a challenge. If this guy is dumb enough to swing at you any time he sees you, then it's probably not going to make things worse to have a friend with you. It will provide someone who, at the least, can be a witness and potentially a deterrent to a fight. I would not advise that friend to get physical if something does happen though...it's a much better idea for that friend to be the FIRST ONE to report the problem to the police. Often the attitude of the cops is determined by the first story they hear, and if the reporter is on your side, then that could help things.
I don't know what the laws are over there, but if there's no provision for self-defense and some sort of public defense for people who can't afford lawyers (if you don't have a job, you would probably qualify), then I think we found another reason for you to move here. You should send us all resumes so we can try to get you hired.