It will protect you from some things, but it will also make using the web a huge pain in the ass because you will have to whitelist all the JavaScript that doesn't suck. Not worth the effort, but use it if you are willing to put the time into it.
Do I need to use these? Yes, they are industry standards. Along with Adobe CS. That doesn't include a quality render engine... so let's see... How about Maxwell?
If I give you $995, will you let me install all kinds of viruses on your computer and also have all your personal information and all your data and your passwords? That is the deal you are making if the warez isn't confirmed to be legit.
I would find a way to install the legit version and crack it rather than risk warez. Maybe use a keygen on a separate offline machine that you then erase.
Guys, I pirated crap all the time in college. I also had reliable sources and knew what I was doing. Most of you don't. A few of you do.
Piracy is one thing. But many of you install software that is actually free, but serves no useful purpose other than to clutter your machine or inflict malware upon you.
The core point isn't to not pirate (though the danger if you don't know what you're doing cannot be overstated). The core point is to not install ANYTHING unless you have a good reason and you've done your due diligence.
Guys, I pirated crap all the time in college. I also had reliable sources and knew what I was doing. Most of you don't. A few of you do.
Piracy is one thing. But many of you install software that is actually free, but serves no useful purpose other than to clutter your machine or inflict malware upon you.
The core point isn't to not pirate (though the danger if you don't know what you're doing cannot be overstated). The core point is to not install ANYTHING unless you have a good reason and you've done your due diligence.
I agree with and follow your core point, but I think you're going out on a limb a little by accusing most of the members of the forum.
I agree with and follow your core point, but I think you're going out on a limb a little by specifically accusing most of the members of the forum.
While Scott presented the argument in the worst possible way...
If you install CCCP, you have made a mistake. There's no good reason to install it. Period.
Don't conflate my opinion with Scott's presentation, nor his conflated points, nor his judgement or any perceived judgement on my part. I simply state my professional opinon.
No one should install CCCP. There is no good reason to do so.
The default Windows software doesn't play a lot of videos, therefore you have to install something, and whether that something has a 0.1% chance or 0.2% chance of containing malware is not particularly significant.
If you disagree, I've got an NFO browser that you've got to install. After all, how else can you read those NFO files that explain how to use warez?
vim does the job just fine, if I recall correctly.
While I agree with you now (in retrospect) about CCCP, Rym, there was a hilarious time when people were intentionally writing their sub scripts to crash VLC and many non-CCCP setups. So...
While I agree with you now (in retrospect) about CCCP, Rym, there was a hilarious time when people were intentionally writing their sub scripts to crash VLC and many non-CCCP setups. So...
Aaaand, fuck them and those files. That's not a good reason to install it, as videos without that problem were almost always readily available at or near the same time.
That's like saying one should install the "cRack3r" web browser because three web sites written by the people who make "cRack3r" don't render properly in real browsers.
While I agree with you now (in retrospect) about CCCP, Rym, there was a hilarious time when people were intentionally writing their sub scripts to crash VLC and many non-CCCP setups. So...
Aaaand, fuck them and those files. That's not a good reason to install it, as videos without that problem were almost always readily available at or near the same time.
That's like saying one should install the "cRack3r" web browser because three web sites written by the people who make "cRack3r" don't render properly in real browsers.
I agree with you, mostly (often, there weren't video files available because of the whole "honor amongst theives" of people not subbing series other people are subbing), and in the modern era there is no reason to use CCCP. That said, we still get people coming up to us after Craziest Mecha Moments giving us shit for using VLC.
If WMP is your thing then K-Lite might work better, it's just an MPlayer/FFMpeg backend. Subtitle groups also be crazy, though I've seen stranger things come through as disc file formats for obscure PS2 games; .nrg files, anyone?
Edit: We should start a video format hipster movement.
Do I need to use these? Yes, they are industry standards. Along with Adobe CS. That doesn't include a quality render engine... so let's see... How about Maxwell?
image This is why I warez.
Ah, Autodesk. So expensive! Maya is the same price!
I kinda do like what Adobe is doing with the cloud.
I agree with you, mostly (often, there weren't video files available because of the whole "honor amongst theives" of people not subbing series other people are subbing), and in the modern era there is no reason to use CCCP. That said, we still get people coming up to us after Craziest Mecha Moments giving us shit for using VLC.
But again, not a good reason to actually install it. You should Buzz Aldrin those people.
I agree with you, mostly (often, there weren't video files available because of the whole "honor amongst theives" of people not subbing series other people are subbing), and in the modern era there is no reason to use CCCP. That said, we still get people coming up to us after Craziest Mecha Moments giving us shit for using VLC.
But again, not a good reason to actually install it. You should Buzz Aldrin those people.
Our response is always an icy "It works, doesn't it?"
While I agree with you now (in retrospect) about CCCP, Rym, there was a hilarious time when people were intentionally writing their sub scripts to crash VLC and many non-CCCP setups. So...
Aaaand, fuck them and those files. That's not a good reason to install it, as videos without that problem were almost always readily available at or near the same time.
While it's not an argument I'd make for CCCP since I don't really know anything about the "sub script" business, if it were to take significant extra effort to find releases without these sub scripts - e.g. if you actually had to go looking into forums to find which releases did or did not have them - that would be in fact be a good reason to use CCCP over some other player.
I agree with you, mostly (often, there weren't video files available because of the whole "honor amongst theives" of people not subbing series other people are subbing), and in the modern era there is no reason to use CCCP. That said, we still get people coming up to us after Craziest Mecha Moments giving us shit for using VLC.
But again, not a good reason to actually install it. You should Buzz Aldrin those people.
Our response is always an icy "It works, doesn't it?"
VLC used to do really stupid shit with the colors. "Black" was actually a somewhat dark gray. I think it did its own color management? Not sure who thought that was a good idea, since VLC was supposed to be a super-easy solution that plays every video file with minimal configuration.
This isn't a problem anymore, but VLC was virtually unusable back then.
VLC used to do really stupid shit with the colors. "Black" was actually a somewhat dark gray. I think it did its own color management? Not sure who thought that was a good idea, since VLC was supposed to be a super-easy solution that plays every video file with minimal configuration.
This isn't a problem anymore, but VLC was virtually unusable back then.
And you know what worked back then? mplayer.
BUT. That doesn't even matter. Argue all you want about whether CCCP was worthwhile back then. We're talking about now. There is no good reason on god's green earth to install CCCP on this day, May 16th 2012.
CCCP is made by fansubbers, not technologists. It's bad software, and they would go out of their way to trick people into thinking they needed it.
What are you basing those comments off?
VLC used to do really stupid shit with the colors. "Black" was actually a somewhat dark gray. I think it did its own color management? Not sure who thought that was a good idea, since VLC was supposed to be a super-easy solution that plays every video file with minimal configuration.
This isn't a problem anymore, but VLC was virtually unusable back then.
And you know what worked back then? mplayer.
BUT. That doesn't even matter. Argue all you want about whether CCCP was worthwhile back then. We're talking about now. There is no good reason on god's green earth to install CCCP on this day, May 16th 2012.
I have a three-year old netbook that I took overseas several months ago while my main laptop was broken; I discovered that it played 720p video quite poorly, with noticeable stuttering, using both mplayer and VLC.
Unfortunately, this was on a Linux system so I didn't have the option of installing CCCP, which I would've done if it were on Windows (from previous experience when I had Windows installed on the same system, CCCP was capable of playing 720p quite smoothly).
I resolved the issue by switching to mplayer2, but frankly I'm less inclined to trust mplayer2 than CCCP.
While I agree with you now (in retrospect) about CCCP, Rym, there was a hilarious time when people were intentionally writing their sub scripts to crash VLC and many non-CCCP setups. So...
Aaaand, fuck them and those files. That's not a good reason to install it, as videos without that problem were almost always readily available at or near the same time.
That's like saying one should install the "cRack3r" web browser because three web sites written by the people who make "cRack3r" don't render properly in real browsers.
Actually, the better comparison would be you running Netscape Navigator (VLC) because it renders html. What do you mean you want <video>, <audio>, CSS, security, anti-pop up, and all that load of bullshit. The reason people fucked with VLC was because it was atrocious. Installing it was the worst option on all fronts. Then they caved in and stepped over to using the ffmpeg libraries, like mplayer does.
Currently, as far as I know, there is no reason to use VLC over CCCP or vice versa. Saying otherwise is quite stupid.
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Do I need to use these? Yes, they are industry standards. Along with Adobe CS. That doesn't include a quality render engine... so let's see... How about Maxwell?
This is why I warez.
I would find a way to install the legit version and crack it rather than risk warez. Maybe use a keygen on a separate offline machine that you then erase.
Piracy is one thing. But many of you install software that is actually free, but serves no useful purpose other than to clutter your machine or inflict malware upon you.
The core point isn't to not pirate (though the danger if you don't know what you're doing cannot be overstated). The core point is to not install ANYTHING unless you have a good reason and you've done your due diligence.
If you install CCCP, you have made a mistake. There's no good reason to install it. Period.
Don't conflate my opinion with Scott's presentation, nor his conflated points, nor his judgement or any perceived judgement on my part. I simply state my professional opinon.
No one should install CCCP. There is no good reason to do so.
That's like saying one should install the "cRack3r" web browser because three web sites written by the people who make "cRack3r" don't render properly in real browsers.
Edit: We should start a video format hipster movement.
I kinda do like what Adobe is doing with the cloud.
This isn't a problem anymore, but VLC was virtually unusable back then.
BUT. That doesn't even matter. Argue all you want about whether CCCP was worthwhile back then. We're talking about now. There is no good reason on god's green earth to install CCCP on this day, May 16th 2012.
Unfortunately, this was on a Linux system so I didn't have the option of installing CCCP, which I would've done if it were on Windows (from previous experience when I had Windows installed on the same system, CCCP was capable of playing 720p quite smoothly).
I resolved the issue by switching to mplayer2, but frankly I'm less inclined to trust mplayer2 than CCCP.
Currently, as far as I know, there is no reason to use VLC over CCCP or vice versa. Saying otherwise is quite stupid.