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  • We're talking about a machine that's worth more than 2100 dollars. It's a device with the name pro in it, so I assume it's meant for something more than just grandmas or whatever the apple consumer stereotype is. If I'm going to spend that much wonga on a laptop, I don't see why I have to pay another 30 dollars for something as simple as ethernet. Then again, I don't know why I am so surprised about Apple sacrificing something that's useful just so that they can make thinner products.
  • I have no problem with them making a laptop as thin as possible, and as powerful as possible, I'm just wondering if the designation of "Pro" actually means it is for professionals, or if it is just the best way for them to say "watch out, it's expensive!"

    I travel a lot with my laptop, and use the Ethernet port and the DVD burner on a regular basis for work purposes. I'd love a thinner laptop, but couldn't sacrifice power, RAM or hard drive space, nor audio in and out, nor any of the connectors. I'd hate to have to carry around adaptors for anything, and with an Air or this Retina MBP I'd need adaptors for everything!
  • I still don't understand Apple's love affair with adapters. I guess they love charging $20 for them. The thing is, they are very concerned with beauty and design. All my co-workers have Macs and their desks are covered with a sea of cables and adapters. My desk with the Lenovo only has a wire for mouse and keyboard. All the other cables are out of sight and out of mind. If I had/wanted a wireless mouse and keyboard it would be even cleaner.

    The Macbook may look nicer standing on its own next to the Lenovo, but in a real world situation, the only PC desk in the room ends up being the prettiest.
  • I still don't understand Apple's love affair with adapters. I guess they love charging $20 for them.
    I suspect you understand it better than you think you do.
  • I still don't understand Apple's love affair with adapters. I guess they love charging $20 for them.
    I suspect you understand it better than you think you do.
    Yet, they don't have user-replaceable batteries, which they could charge hundreds of dollars for.
  • Yet, they don't have user-replaceable batteries, which they could charge hundreds of dollars for.
    Yep, but it's the Apple design philosophy in play, there. They keep it closed, keep the end user away from it, stop you futzing with it. Adapters, however, can still be designed to be within the apple design philosophy, and be sold at a high price, without allowing the user any more access than they had before, and without raising the production price for Apple significantly.

    If you put cables all over your desk, apple figures that's your problem with organization, not a design problem, maybe you should buy some zip ties or Velcro straps or something.
  • edited June 2012
    Besides, despite the fact Apple charges like $20 for their adapters, sooner or later Monoprice or Belkin or someone else will make a cheaper one. I think I paid about $5 from Monoprice for a mini DisplayPort to DVI adapter a couple years back.

    FWIW, I have no problem with not having Ethernet on a laptop, but I care more about portability than performance on my laptops. I have a desktop metaphorically chained to my desk that I use for anything that requires real performance.

    Also, they are starting to come out with Thunderbolt-based docking stations. Matrox and Belkin so far have released some. They're not cheap (at least not yet) -- the Matrox one is about $250 list -- however, it includes a DVI, ethernet, USB 2 and 3, Firewire, etc., ports in a box that you hook up via a single Thunderbolt connection. If you seriously plan to use your MBP as a desktop replacement, getting one of these boxes would probably be a good idea.
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  • It is 11:44 a.m. and I have finished all of my work for today and 98 percent of my work for tomorrow. I see no merit in sitting idle at my desk. The funny thing is that I've also done about 30 percent of my boss' workload for today and tomorrow already as well... what now?
  • It is 11:44 a.m. and I have finished all of my work for today and 98 percent of my work for tomorrow. I see no merit in sitting idle at my desk. The funny thing is that I've also done about 30 percent of my boss' workload for today and tomorrow already as well... what now?
    Play Quake live?
  • It's a device with the name pro in it, so I assume it's meant for something more than just grandmas or whatever the apple consumer stereotype is.
    There's your mistake. Effectively, the "Pro" just designates a different model. You wanna know why I got a MacBook Pro instead of a MacBook? I wanted a backlit keyboard. The additional specs were nice too, but honestly not that much better than a regular MacBook. With my student discount, the price difference wasn't that significant.

    Apple sacrifices a lot of things on certain products for design/size concerns. The solution to that problem is to not buy those products. I still won't buy a laptop without a CD/DVD drive because I do use it on rare occasions.

  • me: how far are you in the books?
    Jason: about 600 pages into book one
    me: ah
    i'm reading GoT:CoK right now
    Jason: GOT COCK
    muhahahaha
    Jason: i hunger
    me: for cock?
    Jason: as long as it's fried
  • Mmmm, cock. I hear it's tasty when soaked in Sherry and spices.

    I'm about halfway through Got:CoK right now. Solidarity!
  • edited June 2012
    Isn't it aSoIaF:CoK?
    Post edited by George Patches on
  • Yeah, but GoT:CoK looks better and rolls off the tongue better.
  • Mmmm, cock. I hear it's tasty when soaked in Sherry and spices.
    Cock au vin is supposed to be quite a classic dish at that!
  • I'm about 1/3 into re-reading a Storm of Swords right now. Woo. I'd forgotten how effed up everything is. Season 3 is going to be aweeeesome.
  • I'm barely in CoK: chapter 5 - Arya. I just want to read them to see the differences.
  • Mmmm, cock. I hear it's tasty when soaked in Sherry and spices.
    Cock au vin is supposed to be quite a classic dish at that!
    Yeah, that's sounding pretty tasty right now.
  • Season 3 is going to be great. And by "great" I mean it will provide me ample opportunities to laugh at the pain of those seeing the events for the first time.
  • The Oatmeal vs. FunnyJunk internet shit storm is amusing.

    I found this link via Twitter and found this article to have some funny lines.

    http://www.popehat.com/2012/06/12/hey-did-somebody-say-something-was-going-on-with-the-oatmeal/
  • Why is technology so much more popular than all the other forum categories, other than "Everything Else".
  • Yes, I wonder...
  • edited June 2012
    The Oatmeal vs. FunnyJunk internet shit storm is amusing.

    I found this link via Twitter and found this article to have some funny lines.

    http://www.popehat.com/2012/06/12/hey-did-somebody-say-something-was-going-on-with-the-oatmeal/
    Oh man, I can see this going really bad, really fast. Like, Jack Thompson bad. Soon, FJ and their lawyer will be much as Thompson is now - a spectre, forgotten except in amusing memory, and the myth that he appears and takes away your video games if you say his name three times while looking at your reflection in the back of a GTA disk.
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  • The game I am playing is Gnome 3. I am losing.
  • I'm playing a bunch of the BF3 close quarters DLC, along with some ArmA. Losing at both.
  • Y'know, I feel like a discussion on religion right about now; it's a pity there isn't a real stimulus for one at the moment.
  • The Oatmeal vs. FunnyJunk internet shit storm is amusing.

    I found this link via Twitter and found this article to have some funny lines.

    http://www.popehat.com/2012/06/12/hey-did-somebody-say-something-was-going-on-with-the-oatmeal/
    Oh man, I can see this going really bad, really fast. Like, Jack Thompson bad. Soon, FJ and their lawyer will be much as Thompson is now - a spectre, forgotten except in amusing memory, and the myth that he appears and takes away your video games if you say his name three times while looking at your reflection in the back of a GTA disk.
    It's getting there.
  • That was too much alcohol.
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