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  • I also curious as to if people have Java installed and up to date, and if they constantly update Flash to the newest version. There are lots of security vulnerabilities and flaws in both of these things. If you have either one, and don't constantly update them, you might have evil things ruining your computer when you visit particular sites, or open your browser at all.
  • Also of note if you are not running something like Ad Block a lot of banner ads are in done in Flash. People maybe running (multiple) Flash files without realizing it.
  • Who on this forum is not running adblock??
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    Also of note if you are not running something like Ad Block a lot of banner ads are in done in Flash. People maybe running (multiple) Flash files without realizing it.
    Also, YouTube HTML5 uses H.264, though I imagine it is going to switch to WebM at some point. That means you are using Flash on YouTube in Firefox instead of HTML5, like you are in Chrome. Makes a big difference since YouTube is the site for the most videos. Also, makes a big difference on a forum like this with a ton of embeds per page. FlashBlock is a must.

    Chrome puts each tab in a separate process, so that if one tab crashes, you are still good. Firefox doesn't have that yet, but it does put each plugin in its own little sandbox, so if something happens to Flash, Firefox doesn't care. I tested this once, and it worked great.

    EDIT: You can get WebM HTML5 video in FF4 right now. Just go to this link and join the trial.
    http://www.youtube.com/html5
    Post edited by Apreche on
  • I also curious as to if people have Java installed and up to date, and if they constantly update Flash to the newest version.
    Naturally. I'm no professional, but I'm not stupid. As for Adblock, I run it everwhere, all the time, and use a very strict blacklist. There is nothing nasty on my computer, too - because again, I'm not stupid. (And I kinda listened to Scrym's advice on the topic.)
  • Check out Flashblock, too. It's very nice and unintrusive, and you can whitelist sites as you please.
  • Who on this forum is not running adblock??
    I've not felt a need for it.
  • I've not felt a need for it.
    But why ever see ads? Block 'em and you'll greatly speed up your Internet experience.
  • But why ever see ads? Block 'em and you'll greatly speed up your Internet experience.
    Never been a priority for me. I'm far more annoyed by false positives than the ads themselves.
  • I'm far more annoyed by false positives than the ads themselves.
    I have not, in over a year, ever run into a situation where I wasn't seeing something that I wanted to see. I'd rather miss a real message than see a spam message, and I'd rather miss a real image than see an advertising image. ;^)
  • I'm far more annoyed by false positives than the ads themselves.
    I have not, in over a year, ever run into a situation where I wasn't seeing something that I wanted to see. I'd rather miss a real message than see a spam message, and I'd rather miss a real image than see an advertising image. ;^)
    Fortunately we don't have to agree on this. We both have separate computer that we both have setup to our likings.
  • edited March 2011
    Fortunately we don't have to agree on this. We both have separate computer that we both have setup to our likings.
    Haha... I love it when people try to impose a solution on you when you don't have a problem. Mom did this to me last night when I was venting by yelling at a slow driver. She kept escalating her voice to convince me it was bad for my chi to get upset, even though I kept tell her I wasn't really upset in any lasting way. As if I didn't understand what she meant, and saying it louder would make it easier to understand. I think I had to tell her to shut up because I didn't care about her solution to a non-existent problem 15 times.
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  • Fortunately we don't have to agree on this. We both have separate computer that we both have setup to our likings.
    Haha... I love it when people try to impose a solution on you when you don't have a problem.
    Oh he has a problem. The problem is he likes ads.
  • Fortunately we don't have to agree on this. We both have separate computer that we both have setup to our likings.
    Haha... I love it when people try to impose a solution on you when you don't have a problem.
    Oh, I'm just really curious how it isn't a problem. He isn't wrong, it's just a position I can't really understand. From my perspective, ads are intrusive noise at best, trivially removed. Seeing the Internet on a non-filtered device is surprising and annoying to me. I'm amazed at how many ads there are.
  • Seeing the Internet on a non-filtered device is surprising and annoying to me. I'm amazed at how many ads there are.
    It is to me too, but I am also capable of understanding that not everyone perceives reality the same way I do. For instance, George is colorblind. I do not understand what it is like to not be able to distinguish two colors, but I can understand and accept that the condition exists.
  • I do not understand what it is like to not be able to distinguish two colors
    I understand because there are various websites that show you what something looks like for a colorblind person. This is to help non colorblind people design colors and such. If you take that filter and turn it on a site like Flickr, you can get a pretty good idea of what the world looks like to someone with that problem.
  • convince me it was bad for my chi to get upset
    Yeah, that sounds like something your mom would say.
  • edited March 2011
    convince me it was bad for my chi to get upset
    Yeah, that sounds like something your mom would say.
    She actually brought this up when I told her about my heated mattress pad. "Yeah, but the electromagnetic thingies created can mess with your chi..." God, I wanted to slap her when she said that. EM fields from a glorified heating pad? Are you fucking kidding me?
    I understand because there are various websites that show you what something looks like for a colorblind person.
    This doesn't really help you understand fully. It gives you an idea, but it's limited to what you see on the screen. Imagine walking around every day and seeing everything you ever looked at like that. I think you think you understand, but you don't.
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  • edited March 2011
    Regarding application tab persistence, if your privacy settings are such that you remove your history on exit, your application tabs will not be preserved. Or so I've read.

    So it's broken. I'm not using it anymore. Back to Mosaic.
    Post edited by littleidiot on
  • I've hit a few good internet ads before. It's why I leave them turned on for sites like ANN where at one point I was able to get all of Utena from CPM for $100. If I had never seen that ad I would have never known. The problem for me are sites that use really generic ads. I don't want to hear how mucus people have moved into my lungs or about super awesome pet deodorizer. Basically, I wouldn't mine seeing ads if they were stuff I cared about. Facebook can be a hit or a total miss.

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  • Poor Lucy Liu. Once you hit "Lifetime Movie" level of stardom, there's no way back to the top. Not as a lead role, anyway.
  • Fortunately we don't have to agree on this. We both have separate computer that we both have setup to our likings.
    Haha... I love it when people try to impose a solution on you when you don't have a problem.
    Oh he has a problem. The problem is he likes ads.
    It's not that I like ads, I'm just lazy and don't like dealing with plugins. Admittedly is from my ye olde firefox days when plugins broke shit all the time. I just don't go to sites with a ton of ads.
  • There are a couple of sites I turn Adblock off on, mostly because I don't find their sites particularly annoying and I feel like I should let them get some money from my visit. However, these sites are few and far between.
  • There are a couple of sites I turn Adblock off on, mostly because I don't find their sites particularly annoying and I feel like I should let them get some money from my visit. However, these sites are few and far between.
    Ahh, but you can just configure adblock to download, but not display, the ads. Everybody wins (except the advertiser).
  • Aren't all adds based on clicks these days?
  • Project Wonderful ads aren't.
  • edited March 2011
    It's not that I like ads, I'm just lazy and don't like dealing with plugins. Admittedly is from my ye olde firefox days when plugins broke shit all the time. I just don't go to sites with a ton of ads.
    First off, plugins != add ons. Plugins are things like Google Talk, Flash, etc. Adds on are ad blockers, mouse gestures, and shit like that.

    Regardless of the terminology, If you're too lazy to open up the add-ons page, then type in "adblock plus", then click "add to firefox", then I guess you really do deserve to have an web experience full of annoying and/or irrelevant ads. It takes all but 30 seconds and it will drastically improve your web experience.

    Also, we're not in the ye olde days of Firefox anymore. 99% of add ons don't break anything...frankly, I've never had an add on "break" anything in Firefox. You seem like a paranoid tin foil hat wearing computer user. I take it you don't apply Windows updates in fear of them bricking your laptop or "breaking" something?
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  • There are a couple of sites I turn Adblock off on, mostly because I don't find their sites particularly annoying and I feel like I should let them get some money from my visit. However, these sites are few and far between.
    Ahh, but you can just configure adblock to download, but not display, the ads. Everybody wins (except the advertiser).
    Hmm, I did not know that. I should dig into Adblock's settings to see how to take advantage of that.
  • First off, plugins != add ons. Plugins are things like Google Talk, Flash, etc. Adds on are ad blockers, mouse gestures, and shit like that.

    Regardless of the terminology, If you're too lazy to open up the add-ons page, then type in "adblock plus", then click "add to firefox", then I guess you really do deserve to have an web experience full of annoying and/or irrelevant ads. It takes all but 30 seconds and it will drastically improve your web experience.

    Also, we're not in the ye olde days of Firefox anymore. 99% of add ons don't break anything...frankly, I've never had an add on "break" anything in Firefox. You seem like a paranoid tin foil hat wearing computer user. I take it you don't apply Windows updates in fear of them bricking your laptop or "breaking" something?
    Why the fuck are people taking my not using adblock as some kind of personal attack? Don't you have something better to do with your time than rant about how I'm not using my computer correctly?
  • Why the fuck are people taking my not using adblock as some kind of personal attack? Don't you have something better to do with your time than rant about how I'm not using my computer correctly?
    Ads are basically some company's attempt to brainwash you and control you into doing something that is more beneficial to them than it is for you. It's incredibly strange that someone would intentionally subject themselves to more advertising.
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