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  • If 'we the people' have to pay for a political party primary then that primary should be completely open. If the parties want a closed primary they should pay the cost of it 100%.
    I like this idea a lot.

    Parties get too much first-class treatment in our system. There should be zero institutional support for or respect of parties.
  • Really, we should go one step further. Religious institutions should have zero special exemptions, and should be forced to incorporate like any other entity following all of the rules they do.
    They should be fully taxed, and then given rebates/exemptions for the money they give towards charitable works or community improvement.

    Operation costs for a food bank = Tax exempt
    Lawyer fees for sex scandle = Fuck No
  • You've got to be careful with how creatively politicians and rich socialites have learned to define "charitable works" and "community improvement."
  • Comparing what my lawyer has charged me to what I have gotten from their services I would have to say that much of their bill should qualify as charity.
  • It looks like a rash, doesn't it?
  • A surprisingly large chunk of the south not crazy.
  • Well, they're still crazy, just not this particular brand of intensely focused crazy.
  • Atlanta: Barely not crazy. Sorta.
  • A surprisingly large chunk of the south not crazy.
    Gerrymandering.

    Remember: Democrats won the "popular vote" by a significant margin in all house races combined. Yet, they represent a minority of congressional districts.

  • edited October 2013
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/16/politics/shutdown-showdown/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    We've decided to try to extend this fun game we've been playing until mid-January, where we'll host another puppet theater and play with government employee's livelihoods and the long term prospects of people literally dying for want of government funded research, to name two examples. We're also still keeping the sequester, but shhh you're supposed to have stopped talking about that by now.

    We'll probably cut Social Security, because Obama is pretty hot to do that anyway, and oh yeah we'll be imposing stricter hurdles on signing up for the ACA across the board in a malicious and cynical attempt to exclude as many working poor as possible.

    Merry Christmas!!
    Post edited by muppet on
  • Hurray for delaying the inevitable!
  • It still needs to pass the house doesn't it?
  • Yes but it's not too early to mock what a piece of shit this proposal is.
  • I just assumed that the blue blocks in the south were the low-income groups benefiting from democratic policies.
  • None of that shit is worth reopening the government.
  • Is there any reliable data on treasury roll overs? If bonds are not "rolled over" how much would the government have to actually spend between interest and paying out on bonds that have matured?
  • http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/16/politics/shutdown-showdown/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    We've decided to try to extend this fun game we've been playing until mid-January, where we'll host another puppet theater and play with government employee's livelihoods and the long term prospects of people literally dying for want of government funded research, to name two examples. We're also still keeping the sequester, but shhh you're supposed to have stopped talking about that by now.

    We'll probably cut Social Security, because Obama is pretty hot to do that anyway, and oh yeah we'll be imposing stricter hurdles on signing up for the ACA across the board in a malicious and cynical attempt to exclude as many working poor as possible.

    Merry Christmas!!
    They not we :)

  • Correct me if I am wrong but, raising the debt limit is simply kicking the can down the road isnt it? And the can been kicked down the road since...I dunno, Iraq? The next time the problem raises its head again...well..

    When something gives, it's not going to be pretty, but, seems like the only way there can ever be a change in doing things over there.

  • Yo, can someone explain to me why we have a debt ceiling? I get that the idea is that it will limit the amount of foreign debt we have, but it doesn't and why should it?

    Sincere question.
  • Correct me if I am wrong but, raising the debt limit is simply kicking the can down the road isnt it? And the can been kicked down the road since...I dunno, Iraq? The next time the problem raises its head again...well..

    When something gives, it's not going to be pretty, but, seems like the only way there can ever be a change in doing things over there.

    The can has been kicked for $17 Trillion. We're not paying our bills with the debt increase, we're taking on new bills.
  • See that Scott? All this Internet rage fixed shit.
  • Internet rage is about as effective as pissing into the wind.
  • edited October 2013
    Ahhhh, republican tears, love reading comments saying "Never going to vote Republican again" ;-p Like what did they really expect to happen?

    Still someone I can actually vote against voted against reopening, senator Pat Toomey.
    Post edited by Cremlian on
  • Yo, can someone explain to me why we have a debt ceiling? I get that the idea is that it will limit the amount of foreign debt we have, but it doesn't and why should it?

    Sincere question.
    It started with politicians who pretended not to understand how the economy works to placate voters who didn't understand.

    The problem is that some of those politicians are no longer pretending.
  • See ya next year. I honestly don't understand enough about the US govt. to give any real analysis but it does act as a good drama for my bucket of popcorn.
  • Yo, can someone explain to me why we have a debt ceiling? I get that the idea is that it will limit the amount of foreign debt we have, but it doesn't and why should it?

    Sincere question.
    It started with politicians who pretended not to understand how the economy works to placate voters who didn't understand.

    The problem is that some of those politicians are no longer pretending.
    Some of them weren't from the beginning.
  • edited October 2013
    Ahhhh, republican tears, love reading comments saying "Never going to vote Republican again" ;-p Like what did they really expect to happen?

    Still someone I can actually vote against voted against reopening, senator Pat Toomey.
    Dude, you should have seen the fucking silly chucking-toys-out-of-the-pram tantrum from the bloke that owns Tea Party Nation. Glorious to behold.

    Post edited by Churba on
  • I am amazed that these people are amazed. What did they expect to have happen?
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