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  • I was tased once.

    Shocked myself with a handheld stungun by accident.
  • Well, if you live in the right place.

    "Due to restrictions in some states, county and city laws we do not ship to the following locations: Hawaii, Massachusetts, Michigan, Connecticut, New Jersey, Illinois, New York, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, District of Columbia, Annapolis, MD, Baltimore, MD, Chicago, IL, Philadelphia, PA, Baltimore County, MD, Crawford County,IA"
  • I just checked. They will totally let me buy it and ship it to New York irrespective of that disclaimer.

    Unless they have someone manually checking orders and canceling them after the fact, I suspect they don't care.
  • Considering I've had a roommate ship live ammo to our apartment in MA (also illegal) I can confirm that they do not give a fuck. At the very least UPS doesn't.
  • "Some witnesses were clearly lying when they spoke to a grand jury about the August police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., according to St. Louis County prosecuting attorney Robert McCulloch. In an interview about the case Friday, the prosecutor says he won't seek perjury charges." - http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/12/19/371940004/st-louis-grand-jury-heard-witnesses-who-lied-prosecutor-says

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  • Apreche said:

    Neito said:

    Apreche said:

    Rym said:

    Lots of places require police and similar professionals to be tazed as part of their training. Both to be able to understand the effects when they use a taser, AND to be able to react as effectively as possible in the event that they are tazed in the line of duty.

    See also: the tear gas drills in the military.

    I've seen some tazer trainings. Usually one or two people volunteer to be tazed. We gotta taze everyone. Maybe even have them all multi-tazed. Maybe let victims of police abuse do the tazing.
    When our town got tazers, any officer who was going to be licensed to use one got tazed. Our chief was on the front page of the local newspaper post-tazing.
    Have there been any major incidents of the police in your town abusing the tazers or using them inappropriately?
    Not as far as I know, and we have a stadium full of drunks at least 8 sundays a year.
  • Andrew said:

    "Some witnesses were clearly lying when they spoke to a grand jury about the August police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., according to St. Louis County prosecuting attorney Robert McCulloch. In an interview about the case Friday, the prosecutor says he won't seek perjury charges." - http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/12/19/371940004/st-louis-grand-jury-heard-witnesses-who-lied-prosecutor-says

    Thing is, we're probably never gonna know what they were lying about, so it could be either way.

    But I agree they should face trial for perjury, especially the ones that lied to the FBI.
  • Andrew said:

    "Some witnesses were clearly lying when they spoke to a grand jury about the August police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., according to St. Louis County prosecuting attorney Robert McCulloch. In an interview about the case Friday, the prosecutor says he won't seek perjury charges." - http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/12/19/371940004/st-louis-grand-jury-heard-witnesses-who-lied-prosecutor-says

    Thing is, we're probably never gonna know what they were lying about, so it could be either way.

    But I agree they should face trial for perjury, especially the ones that lied to the FBI.
    Except...
    Andrew said:

  • RymRym
    edited December 2014
    Uh oh.

    So, yesterday, a bunch of white assholes got together and held a pro-police rally near city hall. Their slogan?

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    Their hashtag?

    #bluelivesmatter

    These dickbags generated a good deal of strife here, despite there (thankfully) only being about 50 of them.


    Today, a short while ago,Two New York cops were murdered in an apparent ambush while they sat in their car in Brooklyn. The suspect was shot and killed by police in a nearby subway station.

    The situation is developing...
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  • Just heard the suspect shot himself in the subway.
  • NYC PBA declares themselves a "wartime" police dept.
  • I love how he doesn't even know how to spell de Blasio's name.
  • So... Is NYC heading back to the 70's when cop killing was a common occurrence?
  • HMTKSteve said:

    So... Is NYC heading back to the 70's when cop killing was a common occurrence?

    Every indication that this was one guy who shot his girlfriend and decided to go out in a blaze of infamy. This fits in with the problem of lone gunmen we've been having in this country for years.

    The next one will have his own reasons and his own targets in mind.

  • HMTKSteve said:

    So... Is NYC heading back to the 70's when cop killing was a common occurrence?

    Obviously not.

    Violent crime is a vanishing problem here per capita. This is a single crazy guy who happens to fit a scared police narrative.

  • So there were 5 cops cruisers parked outside my house tonight. We called the station to see what was up and apparently they were conducting "training exercises". Training on a Sunday night, in a neighborhood, with riot gear. -_-
  • Can one of you New Yorkers explain to me the beef between De Blasio and the NYPD?
  • chaosof99 said:

    Can one of you New Yorkers explain to me the beef between De Blasio and the NYPD?

    Because De Blasio didn't 100% "support" the police in a whole, absolute, and unqualified manner after the Eric Garner grand jury decision, they've decided that he's an anti-police communist.
  • It is disgusting how the NYPD, in particularly the FoP, leaped onto the Eric Garner decision to score petty political points against their own mayor. The FoP wanted to trot out a "cops are the real victims" storyline when the cops were already ahead (2-0 in controversial grand juries). It's bad form at best, and poking the bull at worst.

    It's just as disgusting that everyone I talk to is blaming the protest movement for the cop deaths, but is unwilling to also consider the actions of the police (and supporters) in stoking the flames of this fire.

    You are allowed to be both A) sick to your stomach with grief at the thought of two cops being killed and B) a supporter of a movement that believes cops should treat people fairly and humanely, while acting with accountability.
  • Nice Emoji ;)
  • Again? Really?

    Like someone being arrested for resisting arrest, I guess now young black men can be shot for resisting... what? Anything? Sigh.
  • "He was reaching for a gun" is the usual line.

    Also, that cop "randomly" wasn't wearing his body camera?
  • Rym said:

    "He was reaching for a gun" is the usual line.

    Also, that cop "randomly" wasn't wearing his body camera?

    You literally need the gun to be unable to fire unless it is hooked up to a camera live streaming every time it is unholstered.
  • Cameras on the gun.
  • From the video we do have so far, it does really look like Antonio Martin drew a gun and aimed it at the cop...

    Supposedly there may be more video.

    The cop should still be fired for not using his body cam or dash cam, regardless of the outcome of the whole thing. But the video I've seen so far, coupled with the forensic evidence, leads me to believe that either.

    1. He pulled a gun on the cop

    or

    2. He made a motion like pulling a gun on the cop, but didn't actually have a gun; said gun being then planted by the police on his body.
  • I guess the third option is that he made a motion like pulling a gun on the cop, but didn't actually have the gun in his hand. Independently, he had an illegal loaded gun on his person, which he dropped after being shot (despite it not having been in his hand when he made the motion like pulling a gun).
  • Too many guns in this country.
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