In that case, Tell me exactly what I have to do to get this super easy citizenship.
I'm curious too. I mean, if there really is a fast, easy way to be a US citizen, please inform me. I'd like to ask some of my family members why they had green cards for 13 years instead of just getting the golden ticket as soon as they got their foot in the door.
I'm curious too. I mean, if there really is a fast, easy way to be a US citizen,pleaseinform me. I'd like to ask some of my family members why they had green cards for 13 years instead of just getting the golden ticket as soon as they got their foot in the door.
Shit, I'd be lucky at this point to even get a green card. Seriously, I'm going nuts over here trying to get anything but a tourist visa.
In that case, Tell me exactly what I have to do to get this super easy citizenship.
I'm curious too. I mean, if there really is a fast, easy way to be a US citizen,pleaseinform me. I'd like to ask some of my family members why they had green cards for 13 years instead of just getting the golden ticket as soon as they got their foot in the door.
Comparatively speaking US is very easy.
In the US you can become a citizen in under 2 years by joining the military.
Thailand - They must be of the age of majority, be of good character, be gainfully employed, have continuously lived in Thailand for not less than FIVE years and have knowledge of the Thai language. (Section 10). Used to be much harder link
Saudi Arabia - Your only route to becoming a naturalised citizen is by marriage to a national; even this, however, doesn’t guarantee citizenship, particularly for non-Muslims. link
Switzerland is one of the hardest countries to get citizenship in. It takes 12 years to naturalise and you will have to go in front of a committee that has the power to deny you citizenship if they don't like you. In other words, this is not something that comes automatic after 12 years. link
In the US you can become a citizen in under 2 years by joining the military.
I'm Medically unfit for service in a non-fixable fashion. Oh, and there is one other point that gets in the way there -
Joining the U.S. military requires U.S. citizenship or permanent residency,
So, unfortunately, not an option. So, if it's so easy, I'm still waiting - Tell me exactly what I have to do, because that is exactly what I'm currently trying to do. Tell me what I have to do, and I will do it.
In the US you can become a citizen in under 2 years by joining the military.
I'm Medically unfit for service in a non-fixable fashion. Oh, and there is one other point that gets in the way there -
Joining the U.S. military requires U.S. citizenship or permanent residency,
So, unfortunately, not an option. So, if it's so easy, I'm still waiting - Tell me exactly what I have to do,because that is exactly what I'm currently trying to do.Tell me what I have to do,and I will do it.
Well, this isn't easy, but I think you can do it while you apply for your work visa and green card. I'm assuming you're still an Australian citizen; if that's indeed the case, you're eligible for the Diversity Visa Lottery. It might be worth a shot.
Well, this isn't easy, but I think you can do it while you apply for your work visa and green card. I'm assuming you're still an Australian citizen; if that's indeed the case, you're eligible for the Diversity Visa Lottery. It might be worth a shot.
I'd have to wait for the 2012 lottery to open, and still, it's not a guarantee then even if I do get on it. I am still an Australian citizen, though - which frankly, I'd give up in a heartbeat to do this. I'm absolutely serious - I'd give it up without a second thought or a shred of remorse to do this.
As for doing it while I apply for my work visa - I can't get one except under special circumstances which I don't fall under, because I don't have a high level degree or a job in the specific set that this applies for. And I would want one before I go, because otherwise, I can't support myself, and nobody's going to hire some homeless foreign asshole, regardless of work visa. I can't go illegal, because I'd never make enough money to support myself under even the most shitty of circumstances.
I might be able to do it if I had a company to sponsor me, but seriously, if anyone can think of a single company that actually would, considering the above, then you deserve a medal and a wreath of honour.
Hell, anyone who help me figure out how the hell I can do this, you deserve probably more than I can give. I've waded though so much dense legalese and bullshit just to be told over and over again, you can't do it, we don't want you - and that's just from the small amount of legal bullshit that I can understand, the rest of it might as well be written in Swahili Braille for all the comprehensibility of it. I just can't figure it out, and I am going to do it, even if I have to become an illegal and work myself to damn near death doing whatever they hell they went me to do. And frankly, someone who I doubt has ever been in this situation going "Oh it's just so easy" - it really, really pisses me off, because I'm trying to do it now, and it's fucking hard, and fucking frustrating to beat your head against a wall at every single fucking turn.
Let me put it this way - I can't say for certain, but I suspect that Tick, well, you don't know a thing about which you speak. I would be better than grateful for the rest of my life if you educated yourself, or even better, possess education enough on the matter enough to help me do this, but devoid of that knowledge, I ask you kindly, Don't speak on it as if you know what you're talking about.
Let me put it this way - I can't say for certain, but I suspect that Tick, well, you don't know a thing about which you speak.
He doesn't know a goddamn thing about it. My dad's family immigrated, my aunt went on to be an immigration attorney in the Capital, and you're completely correct. It went from "pretty bad" in the 70s and 80s to "nigh impossible" to get a green card.
Anyway, you said you don't have a high enough degree to warrant citizenship. I don't know anything about your background, and I don't want to pry or anything, but have you considered applying to a US college? I think you can receive a student visa even as a part-time student. The F-1 is your friend if you can make ends meet, and the degree you get could help you get a green card--at least, in theory. Also, note that the F-1 will allow you to be employed in the US while you're enrolled, so you can get some income going.
EDIT: You can work 20 hours per week with approval on an F-1. It's not a lot, but its a window.
In the US you can become a citizen in under 2 years by joining the military.
I'm Medically unfit for service in a non-fixable fashion. Oh, and there is one other point that gets in the way there -
Joining the U.S. military requires U.S. citizenship or permanent residency,
So, unfortunately, not an option. So, if it's so easy, I'm still waiting - Tell me exactly what I have to do,because that is exactly what I'm currently trying to do.Tell me what I have to do,and I will do it.
He could if he had what we Americans call "a fucking clue".
If you are medically unfit for service and lack an advanced skill set why would the US want you as a citizen? What do you bring to the table?
We should apply this metric to naturally-born citizens too. Are you useful to society? No? You get the boot.
This sets an excellent precedent! Now we can use Obamacare to make them death panels we wanted and have a communo-islamo-facist socialism takeover of the country!
. A foreign national has no right to an American citizenship.
So why do we give it to someone who just happens to be born here?
There has been a fierce debate about that ever since the 14th amendment was interpreted to mean that in Wong Kim Ark.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside
Most of the debate focuses on the words "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". Does it mean a full and complete jurisdiction or does it mean a temporary jurisdiction such as one experiences when on vacation?
My personal opinion is that it requires full jurisdiction but the court does not agree with me.
Think of it this way: A pregnant woman enters your house (legally or otherwise) and gives birth on your floor. Afterwards she now claims that the child is a member of your family (as well as hers) and you are now legally and financially responsible for this baby simply because it was born inside your house.
OR
A pregnant woman enters your house (legally or otherwise) and gives birth on your floor. Afterwards you now claim that the child is a member of your family (as well as hers) and you are now legally and financially responsible for this baby simply because it was born inside your house.
Doesn't that sound absurd? That is what we currently have with the only exception being for government officials of foreign lands.
WHY!*sigh* Never has there been such lament from a man over a hot lesbian.
She is looking at her soul with her heart.
She could also be crazy in bed.
That is always a plus :P
. A foreign national has no right to an American citizenship.
So why do we give it to someone who just happens to be born here?
I also knew a bunch of people during high school whose parents came to the United States while they were pregnant and they were born in the USA, then the parents went back to their countries (I am not sure if they were able to pay for the hospital stay). Later when their son was mature enough, he was sent to the USA since he was after all a citizen even though he didn't know english and all his life was spent in another country. "Interesting" loop hole if you ask me.
. A foreign national has no right to an American citizenship.
So why do we give it to someone who just happens to be born here?
There has been a fierce debate about that ever since the 14th amendment was interpreted to mean that in Wong Kim Ark.
I don't think you understand the question. What gives people (full jurisdiction or not), who are born on American soil, the right to be American citizens?
Obviously the solution should be: Service Guarantees Citizenship
Churbs, couldn't you come over on a travel visa and network? I mean, that's probably a good start. If you have to have a valuable skill set, you should probably find out what skill sets are desirable to people who are actually willing to hire people on a work visa. From everything I've seen, people are way more willing to stick it out for a person they have actually met. I know you can't actually work on a travel visa, but that doesn't mean you can't start meeting people and developing a support network.
Uh, no. A foreign national has no right to an American citizenship.
So what guarantees you to American citizenship? And please don't play the born here card, as by that logic very few Americans are entitled to live in America.
So what guaranteesyouto American citizenship? And please don't play the born here card, as by that logic very few Americans are entitled to live in America.
Clearly, he must be a fucking Navy SEAL Interventional Neuroradiologist with a PhD in Advanced Molecular Genomics and a triple major in Biology, Mechanical and Aeronautic Engineering!
Otherwise,
why would the US want him as a citizen? What does he bring to the table?
But it comes down to a more fundamental question of what nation states are for. Who can decide if you deserve to life in something as accidental as the USA.
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And her girlfriend is... is.. Ugh! just look.
WHY!
*sigh* Never has there been such lament from a man over a hot lesbian.
In the US you can become a citizen in under 2 years by joining the military.
Thailand - They must be of the age of majority, be of good character, be gainfully employed, have continuously lived in Thailand for not less than FIVE years and have knowledge of the Thai language. (Section 10). Used to be much harder link
Saudi Arabia - Your only route to becoming a naturalised citizen is by marriage to a national; even this, however, doesn’t guarantee citizenship, particularly for non-Muslims. link
Switzerland is one of the hardest countries to get citizenship in. It takes 12 years to naturalise and you will have to go in front of a committee that has the power to deny you citizenship if they don't like you. In other words, this is not something that comes automatic after 12 years. link
As for doing it while I apply for my work visa - I can't get one except under special circumstances which I don't fall under, because I don't have a high level degree or a job in the specific set that this applies for. And I would want one before I go, because otherwise, I can't support myself, and nobody's going to hire some homeless foreign asshole, regardless of work visa. I can't go illegal, because I'd never make enough money to support myself under even the most shitty of circumstances.
I might be able to do it if I had a company to sponsor me, but seriously, if anyone can think of a single company that actually would, considering the above, then you deserve a medal and a wreath of honour.
Hell, anyone who help me figure out how the hell I can do this, you deserve probably more than I can give. I've waded though so much dense legalese and bullshit just to be told over and over again, you can't do it, we don't want you - and that's just from the small amount of legal bullshit that I can understand, the rest of it might as well be written in Swahili Braille for all the comprehensibility of it. I just can't figure it out, and I am going to do it, even if I have to become an illegal and work myself to damn near death doing whatever they hell they went me to do.
And frankly, someone who I doubt has ever been in this situation going "Oh it's just so easy" - it really, really pisses me off, because I'm trying to do it now, and it's fucking hard, and fucking frustrating to beat your head against a wall at every single fucking turn.
Let me put it this way - I can't say for certain, but I suspect that Tick, well, you don't know a thing about which you speak. I would be better than grateful for the rest of my life if you educated yourself, or even better, possess education enough on the matter enough to help me do this, but devoid of that knowledge, I ask you kindly, Don't speak on it as if you know what you're talking about.
Anyway, you said you don't have a high enough degree to warrant citizenship. I don't know anything about your background, and I don't want to pry or anything, but have you considered applying to a US college? I think you can receive a student visa even as a part-time student. The F-1 is your friend if you can make ends meet, and the degree you get could help you get a green card--at least, in theory. Also, note that the F-1 will allow you to be employed in the US while you're enrolled, so you can get some income going.
EDIT: You can work 20 hours per week with approval on an F-1. It's not a lot, but its a window.
My personal opinion is that it requires full jurisdiction but the court does not agree with me.
Think of it this way: A pregnant woman enters your house (legally or otherwise) and gives birth on your floor. Afterwards she now claims that the child is a member of your family (as well as hers) and you are now legally and financially responsible for this baby simply because it was born inside your house.
OR
A pregnant woman enters your house (legally or otherwise) and gives birth on your floor. Afterwards you now claim that the child is a member of your family (as well as hers) and you are now legally and financially responsible for this baby simply because it was born inside your house.
Doesn't that sound absurd? That is what we currently have with the only exception being for government officials of foreign lands.
Obviously the solution should be:
Service Guarantees Citizenship
Otherwise,