Well, I'm somewhat late to the party, but I've been engrossed in Etrian Odyessy, so that's my excuse.
A few of the things that've been gone over in this thread are things that came up in the further correspondences we had. Specifically, the point that all the arguments raised do boil down to personal preference. As well as the point that Akagi is a dramatization, and a great one at that. I'd have to agree with the feeling that Rym and Scott need to step off, keep their opinions in check, and give genres and their fans the respect they deserve. That's ultimately the message I want to get across.
The analogy with professional wrestling is apt. The attitude that "nothing[...]actually matters except for whatever happens at the very end" is very telling. This is the same thing as watching a movie and thinking "Well, that's just an actor playing a character, so it doesn't matter if he dies." You need to throw that 'realization' into the garbage and take what's being presented to you at face value. I regularly watch wrestling matches where I know the result months in advance and I can still get into them. If I had the "nothing matters.." attitude, I'd just be constantly ruining the experience for myself thinking shit like "Bryan Danielson obviously can't get the pin where because I read online that he loses fifteen minutes later." I don't see the point in thinking that way.
On a side note, I've never understood the hentai as comedy idea. I just can't grasp it. It must be all the old, budget animation shit you mentioned. Nowadays, if people want to see tentacles they watch Mahou Shoujo Ai not La Blue Girl. I certainly wasn't watching Seifuku Shoujo, Dark Love, Princess 69, Bondage Game or Night Shift Nurses for the lulz.
I am trying to create a webcomic that is both a parody of the shonen fighting genre and the perfect shonen fighting comic ever, so these discussions have been a great help. I am currently writing the story, establishing some rules of the world the story inhabits, and finalizing character designs. The only thing I am trying to figure out is wether to keep any fight to one or two chapters or to make them ungodly long as a way of poking fun.
I certainly wasn't watching Seifuku Shoujo, Dark Love, Princess 69, Bondage Game or Night Shift Nurses for the lulz.
So... Why were you watching them? ^_~
The analogy with professional wrestling is apt.
I have equal distate for "professional" wrestling, and more to the point, I can't pretend to myself that I don't know something if I do. If I know the Red Wings lost the game I'm watching now, I know it. I can really only enjoy this sort of thing, be it wrestling or Naruto, in a purely ironic way.
. I'd have to agree with the feeling that Rym and Scott need to step off, keep their opinions in check, and give genres and their fans the respect they deserve.
I respect the fact that people enjoy these series, and that they have opinions about them. It is, however, my personal opinion that these series are largely uninspired drek that aren't worth any further amount of my time. I find them trite, shallow affairs at best. I can imagine few cheaper devices than "OK, time for the 15 episode tournament!!"
As for Akagi, I point out that the drama is largely nonexistent to people who know how to play Mahjong, which is almost entirely a game of luck.
I have just come to a realization that if you do not like the plot device in which you have to overcome a crazy "blah"and then at the last minute you take out an even crazier "blah"then you will not appreciate Doctor Who very much. And Doctor Who is awesome :P
That shit is one of the worst things about new Doctor Who. That and the introduction of romantic tension. Everything else is great.
I have just come to a realization that if you do not like the plot device in which you have to overcome a crazy "blah"and then at the last minute you take out an even crazier "blah"then you will not appreciate Doctor Who very much. And Doctor Who is awesome :P
That shit is one of the worst things about new Doctor Who. That and the introduction of romantic tension. Everything else is great.
I am sorry but old Doctor Who also had the same thing, believe me I watching it since the very beginning. Granted those old black and white episodes where awesome and hilarious at the same time. Also, romantic tension is cool for the Doctor Who noobs and I guess is ok for the old fans because we all know NOTHING WILL HAPPEN!
I certainly wasn't watching Seifuku Shoujo, Dark Love, Princess 69, Bondage Game or Night Shift Nurses for the lulz.
So... Why were you watching them? ^_~
To fap.
The analogy with professional wrestling is apt.
I have equal distate for "professional" wrestling, and more to the point, I can't pretend to myself that I don't know something if I do. If I know the Red Wings lost the game I'm watching now, Iknowit. I can really only enjoy this sort of thing, be it wrestling or Naruto, in a purely ironic way.
Well, you might want to try working on that. It's a loss for you, really.
As for Akagi, I point out that the drama is largely nonexistent to people who know how to play Mahjong, which is almost entirely a game of luck.
Even putting aside the fact that this is a dramatization so the point is moot, and the fact I can say differently after having put some time in playing Japanese Mahjong online; this statement is mindblowingly divorced from reality.
Anyways, so putting all that rant about Naruto aside, about this Hentai thing. I dont understand why people have this misconception that hentai is this disturbing underground thing. Watching hentai is no different from watching any other porn. They can and are usually used to serve the exact same purpose as porn. Not all hentai is tentacle rape and S&M. There are perfectly normal hentai's out there. Whether or not you get "turned on" by animated intercourse is, of course, your own preference. Liking such a medium, however, does not make a person in any way more perverted than any other person. Furthermore, an obvious reason why hentai usually contains unorthodox intercourse that are usually frowned upon by most people is because it is animated and the artists can draw anything imaginable. If it was possible to do these scenes in real life without any consequences, it would also be done. In fact, in many ways hentais are better than regular porn because there are so many different kinds and they can express scenes and fantasies that real life can not. No matter who, there will be a hentai that appeals to them (provided they like porn in anime style). To say hentai is bad is like saying movies are bad; hentai is a submedium that consists of varied genres. Besides, where else can you be guaranteed that all the women will be hot? Where else can you legally satisfy your kiddy porn needs?
I've seen some animated hentai and it's pretty much all crap. The animation looping and bad art doesn't exactly do it for me. But, I've been to 4chan's /h/ and have seen some (but not very much) impressively drawn hentai that, even as pornography, qualifies as amazing artwork. I stay away from the more /d/ stuff (futanari, tentacles, feces, etc.) and anything too tasteless. Almost everything in /h/ is just like actual porn, except drawn. I guess what I'm saying is that I understand people getting off to well illustrated, realistic sex, but the animated stuff is all worthless.
I've listened to quite a few hentai reviewers on Anime World Order, and they've pretty much said that even the best hentai contains retarded looping animation. I don't know about you, but the continuous looping is just silly, stupid looking, and usually laughable. I'd much rather see well illustrated hentai stills or actual porn.
You talk about the looping of animation well, back in the day...
I recall being in the army in California and a friend of mine picked up an 8mm VCR. He also purchased a bunch of blank tapes and he rented a shit-ton of porn from the local video store and converted it to 8mm.
One afternoon he was dubbing a poor video when I walked in. The girl was hot so I sat down for a few minutes. It quickly became apparent that the sex only lasted about two minutes but the editors just kept looping certain parts to make it go on for about 20 minutes! Yeah, it was bad.
As much as video cameras ruined the porn industry (and web videos) at least most of them do no editing so what you see is exactly what happened. Considering porn is just there for getting your rocks off I guess that is good enough for the genre.
I seem to recall reading an article about a company that tried to be the Netflix of porn but they encountered a problem. the problem being that most porn viewers only watch the porn in 2 minute bursts. So, an hour long porn flick will last that lonely guy several months. Yeah, not much turn around or need for a three at a time plan.
Anime World Order is one of the only three worthwhile anime podcasts in the English speaking world, and their reviews are solid. There's a reason we're friends with them, and I tend to trust their judgment on shows.
Anime World Order is one of the only three worthwhile anime podcasts in the English speaking world, and their reviews are solid. There's a reason we're friends with them, and I tend to trust their judgment on shows.
Certainly explains you being out-of-touch. I can't stand Daryl Surat.
Certainly explains you being out-of-touch. I can't stand Daryl Surat.
Please explain.
Fixed. Now, Reimu, if someone generally agrees with the opinions of AWO, they will more likely then not agree with AWO's opinion on subjects they know less off. You not agreeing with AWO doesn't make your opinion about a subject 100% truth and that everyone should agree or they fail. It's only 100% truth in your world, not that of another person.
Also, welcome to the board. Check out any of the other topics on the forum. You certainly have more opinions then just on porn, right?
The more I hear him talk, the more I want to punch him in the gut. It shouldn't be possible for one man to be so wrong.
I am sorry but Daryl Surat is never wrong. If only because he like "Fist of the North Star" Which is the ultimate shonen action series. I mean, this guy open my eyes to Go Nagai and Giant Robo.
Even though I enjoy shonen action series, I will say that once a fight or a filler arc is expanded to more than 3 episodes then the show just went bad and, unless a good guy who is a protagonist dies nothing good will come from it
It shouldn't be possible for one man to be so wrong.
What exactly do you think he's wrong about? Those three usually know their stuff when it comes to anime. They certainly review it more aptly than the vast majority of anime reviewers out there, and I can't find any worthwhile anime podcasts beyond what I've already mentioned.
I read Dungeon a few years back when it was in comic book form. I missed out on issue number two due to a mix-up at the comic shop.
Yes, the comic contains much hilarity. I recall one part where the sword called forth one of its previous owners. Unlike most of the masters of the sword this was some guy's sword bearer who owned the sword for about 1.5 seconds!
Yes, the comic contains much hilarity. I recall one part where the sword called forth one of its previous owners. Unlike most of the masters of the sword this was some guy's sword bearer who owned the sword for about 1.5 seconds!
It shouldn't be possible for one man to be so wrong.
What exactly do you think he's wrong about? Those three usually know their stuff when it comes to anime. They certainly review it more aptly than the vast majority of anime reviewers out there, and I can't find any worthwhile anime podcasts beyond what I've already mentioned.
From the thankfully modest exposure I've had of him:
- Hating on Maria-sama ga Miteru (goodbye credibility) - Hating on visual novels (Yeah, I'm really concerned about "gameplay" when I'm reading a book) - Constantly crying about "MOE-EH(sp)" - Self-righteous moral crusader - And as previously mentioned, out of touch.
David Riley could beat up Daryl Surat in an internet fight.
I'd pay to see that.
From the thankfully modest exposure I've had of him:
- Hating on Maria-sama ga Miteru (goodbye credibility) - Hating on visual novels (Yeah, I'm really concerned about "gameplay" when I'm reading a book) - Constantly crying about "MOE-EH(sp)" - Self-righteous moral crusader - And as previously mentioned, out of touch.
Those are just his personal tastes. I don't think it enough to discredit him just because he hates YOUR favorite show. Would you hate Rym and Scott the same if they didn't like Maria-Sama ga Miteru? Moe...does...suck. I'm sorry for saying that but I never ran into one that has a good story. (the animation is bomb though) I also don't like moe but I do disagree with some points he made about it. Self righteous moral defender? Nope, don't see it. Although my definition of that is much different probably. Out of touch? Fuck no. This guy is living Madarame when it comes to anime. He does know what's up.
AWO's reviews are so in depth and excellent I recommend them first for anime podcasts or reviews. they're way is something people should strive to be a bit like.
IMO, I think your reasons aren't good ones. Hey, but they're better than no reasons at all. Someone could say my reasons for thinking he's awesome isn't very valid. Oh well.
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A few of the things that've been gone over in this thread are things that came up in the further correspondences we had. Specifically, the point that all the arguments raised do boil down to personal preference. As well as the point that Akagi is a dramatization, and a great one at that. I'd have to agree with the feeling that Rym and Scott need to step off, keep their opinions in check, and give genres and their fans the respect they deserve. That's ultimately the message I want to get across.
The analogy with professional wrestling is apt. The attitude that "nothing[...]actually matters except for whatever happens at the very end" is very telling. This is the same thing as watching a movie and thinking "Well, that's just an actor playing a character, so it doesn't matter if he dies." You need to throw that 'realization' into the garbage and take what's being presented to you at face value. I regularly watch wrestling matches where I know the result months in advance and I can still get into them. If I had the "nothing matters.." attitude, I'd just be constantly ruining the experience for myself thinking shit like "Bryan Danielson obviously can't get the pin where because I read online that he loses fifteen minutes later." I don't see the point in thinking that way.
On a side note, I've never understood the hentai as comedy idea. I just can't grasp it. It must be all the old, budget animation shit you mentioned. Nowadays, if people want to see tentacles they watch Mahou Shoujo Ai not La Blue Girl. I certainly wasn't watching Seifuku Shoujo, Dark Love, Princess 69, Bondage Game or Night Shift Nurses for the lulz.
As for Akagi, I point out that the drama is largely nonexistent to people who know how to play Mahjong, which is almost entirely a game of luck.
this statement is mindblowingly divorced from reality.
Edit: I dont like kiddy porn. >.<
I recall being in the army in California and a friend of mine picked up an 8mm VCR. He also purchased a bunch of blank tapes and he rented a shit-ton of porn from the local video store and converted it to 8mm.
One afternoon he was dubbing a poor video when I walked in. The girl was hot so I sat down for a few minutes. It quickly became apparent that the sex only lasted about two minutes but the editors just kept looping certain parts to make it go on for about 20 minutes! Yeah, it was bad.
As much as video cameras ruined the porn industry (and web videos) at least most of them do no editing so what you see is exactly what happened. Considering porn is just there for getting your rocks off I guess that is good enough for the genre.
I seem to recall reading an article about a company that tried to be the Netflix of porn but they encountered a problem. the problem being that most porn viewers only watch the porn in 2 minute bursts. So, an hour long porn flick will last that lonely guy several months. Yeah, not much turn around or need for a three at a time plan.
Also, welcome to the board. Check out any of the other topics on the forum. You certainly have more opinions then just on porn, right?
Even though I enjoy shonen action series, I will say that once a fight or a filler arc is expanded to more than 3 episodes then the show just went bad and, unless a good guy who is a protagonist dies nothing good will come from it
Yes, the comic contains much hilarity. I recall one part where the sword called forth one of its previous owners. Unlike most of the masters of the sword this was some guy's sword bearer who owned the sword for about 1.5 seconds!
- Hating on Maria-sama ga Miteru (goodbye credibility)
- Hating on visual novels (Yeah, I'm really concerned about "gameplay" when I'm reading a book)
- Constantly crying about "MOE-EH(sp)"
- Self-righteous moral crusader
- And as previously mentioned, out of touch.
We're much worse. XD
AWO's reviews are so in depth and excellent I recommend them first for anime podcasts or reviews. they're way is something people should strive to be a bit like.
IMO, I think your reasons aren't good ones. Hey, but they're better than no reasons at all. Someone could say my reasons for thinking he's awesome isn't very valid. Oh well.