3. How sad are you going to be when the Supreme Court denies cert and doesn't even hear this case?
I will be happy if it is based on supporting documentation provided by Obama.
You seem to be under some strange delusion that anyone that questions Obama's legitimacy is somehow against the man. Why are you so scared of the rule of law being followed and his legitimacy being proven? What harm comes from Obama proving his natural born citizenship status? The only potential harm in this case is if Obama is found not to be a natural born citizen, a very unlikely outcome.
Why are you so scared of the rule of law being followed and his legitimacy being proven?
Johnny, I ain't a-scared of nothin' concerning "the rule of law". The rule of law is being followed here, and will more likely than not result in the Supreme Court refusing to waste their time on this stupid-ass case.
Obama won. He won in a landslide. He will be the POTUS. He will be the Commander in Chief. There's nothing you can do about it. Get used to it.
Why are you so scared of the rule of law being followed and his legitimacy being proven?
Johnny, I ain't a-scared of nothin' concerning "the rule of law". The rule of law is being followed here, and will more likely than not result in the Supreme Court refusing to waste their time on this stupid-ass case.
Obama won. He won in a landslide. He will be the POTUS. He will be the Commander in Chief. There's nothing you can do about it. Get used to it.
you are 100% scared of Obama being ruled invalid to serve under the rules as set forth in the Constitution.
Here is another article from WND. The third bullet point in the article has been refuted but not the rest.
Here are the documents in the Berg case. Of particular note is this one. It is an affidavit from the Rev Kweli Shuhubia and in it is a conversation with Obama's grandmother where she repeatedly insists she was present in Kenya for Obama's birth.
Back to the legal standing issue, can the electors sue for proof of eligibility under the Constitution?
If this goes before SCOTUS and they find Obama to be ineligible to be President we will have some serious problems in this country. We'll have the Obama supporters going on and on about how SCOTUS stole the election (again) and we'll have Hillary supporters bitching about how the DNC and Obama betrayed them by putting forth a nominee that was ineligible to be President.
Dismissing the case based on legal standing is the worst thing that can happen. That sends the message that the people don't matter in this country at all.
It is an affidavit from the Rev Kweli Shuhubia and in it is a conversation with Obama's grandmother where she repeatedly insists she was present in Kenya for Obama's birth.
My grandmother says that Jesus himself personally delivers the means of her survival, when it's pretty clearly the government through Social Security and Medicare. Old peoples is crazy. Facts are less so. If you're so goddamn convinced he was born in Kenya, perhaps you'd like to explain to me why a newspaper announcement appeared in a 1961 Honolulu newspaper announcing his birth?
Dismissing the case based on legal standing is the worst thing that can happen. That sends the message that the people don't matter in this country at all.
EDIT: Also, no, it really doesn't. It send the message that this is a tin-foil-hat conspiracy. Which it is.
It is an affidavit from the Rev Kweli Shuhubia and in it is a conversation with Obama's grandmother where she repeatedly insists she was present in Kenya for Obama's birth.
My grandmother says that Jesus himself personally delivers the means of her survival, when it's pretty clearly the government through Social Security and Medicare. Old peoples is crazy. Facts are less so. If you're so goddamn convinced he was born in Kenya, perhaps you'd like to explain to me why a newspaper announcement appeared in a 1961 Honolulu newspaper announcing his birth?
I never said I was convinced he was born in Kenya. However I do want to see all the evidence Berg has and the response of President-elect Obama. I want Obama to blow this guy out of the water 100% and prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is a natural born citizen of the USA. I want all doubt about Obama's eligibility to be POTUS to be gone before he takes the oath of office.
It is an affidavit from the Rev Kweli Shuhubia and in it is a conversation with Obama's grandmother where she repeatedly insists she was present in Kenya for Obama's birth.
My grandmother says that Jesus himself personally delivers the means of her survival, when it's pretty clearly the government through Social Security and Medicare. Old peoples is crazy. Facts are less so. If you're so goddamn convinced he was born in Kenya, perhaps you'd like to explain to me why a newspaper announcement appeared in a 1961 Honolulu newspaper announcing his birth?
I never said I was convinced he was born in Kenya. However I do want to see all the evidence Berg has and the response of President-elect Obama. I want Obama to blow this guy out of the water 100% and prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is a natural born citizen of the USA. I want all doubt about Obama's eligibility to be POTUS to be gone before he takes the oath of office.
The facts of the case are this: Barack Obama was born in Honolulu County, Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state. There is no evidence that he ever renounced his citizenship or had to be re-nationalized. The accused shouldn't, and doesn't, have to prove that they DIDN'T do something. The accusing party has to prove that they did. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. Where is your hard evidence that Barack Obama renounced his citizenship? If you don't have any, you really should be dropping this line of attack, as it's unfruitful.
you are 100% scared of Obama being ruled invalid to serve under the rules as set forth in the Constitution.
Um, no. If there is one thing in life that I am confidently not scared about, it is that SCOTUS will deny cert and not hear this case.
Maybe if you would take that tinfoil hat off your head and thought about it, you would see that you are wrong about this.
So you are scared! You clearly state that you are not scared of SCOTUS denying cert, which is something I never accused you of being scared of. I accused you of being scared of Obama being found ineligible to serve under the rules set forth in the Constitution.
You might want to get those rose tinted glasses checked.
Some of us simply want these bullshit conspiracy theories to be blown out of the water rather than thrown out on a filing technicality.
And some of us want to perpetuate a campaign of FUD on a non-issue, where the evidence and facts (which utterly destroy any malicious claims) have already been presented in multiple ways and at multiple times by multiple people. But some of us just don't get it, don't know when to give up. Am I right, Master John?
Some of us simply want these bullshit conspiracy theories to be blown out of the water rather than thrown out on a filing technicality.
And some of us want to perpetuate a campaign of FUD on a non-issue, where the evidence and facts (which utterly destroy any malicious claims) have already been presented in multiple ways and at multiple times by multiple people. But some of us just don't get it, don't know when to give up. Am I right, Master John?
Yes, I've noticed that on here. Don't worry, I wont hold it against you.
So you are scared! You clearly state that you are not scared of SCOTUS denying cert, which is something I never accused you of being scared of. I accused you of being scared of Obama being found ineligible to serve under the rules set forth in the Constitution.
You might want to get those rose tinted glasses checked.
What you say doesn't even make sense. I am not afraid or scared of "Obama being found ineligible to serve under the rules set forth in the Constitution". That's like saying I'm scared that laser beams will shoot out of my eyes. It's not going to happen. As Mr. Cawdor says, it's a non-issue. Get over it.
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You seem to be under some strange delusion that anyone that questions Obama's legitimacy is somehow against the man. Why are you so scared of the rule of law being followed and his legitimacy being proven? What harm comes from Obama proving his natural born citizenship status? The only potential harm in this case is if Obama is found not to be a natural born citizen, a very unlikely outcome.
Obama won. He won in a landslide. He will be the POTUS. He will be the Commander in Chief. There's nothing you can do about it. Get used to it.
Here is another article from WND. The third bullet point in the article has been refuted but not the rest.
Here are the documents in the Berg case. Of particular note is this one. It is an affidavit from the Rev Kweli Shuhubia and in it is a conversation with Obama's grandmother where she repeatedly insists she was present in Kenya for Obama's birth.
Back to the legal standing issue, can the electors sue for proof of eligibility under the Constitution?
If this goes before SCOTUS and they find Obama to be ineligible to be President we will have some serious problems in this country. We'll have the Obama supporters going on and on about how SCOTUS stole the election (again) and we'll have Hillary supporters bitching about how the DNC and Obama betrayed them by putting forth a nominee that was ineligible to be President.
Dismissing the case based on legal standing is the worst thing that can happen. That sends the message that the people don't matter in this country at all.
The accused shouldn't, and doesn't, have to prove that they DIDN'T do something. The accusing party has to prove that they did. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. Where is your hard evidence that Barack Obama renounced his citizenship? If you don't have any, you really should be dropping this line of attack, as it's unfruitful.
Maybe if you would take that tinfoil hat off your head and thought about it, you would see that you are wrong about this.
You might want to get those rose tinted glasses checked.
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Wait, that's meat-vision.