If it was an onion article I would have known it was parody.
FWIW, I believe Borowitz only writes parody columns for the New Yorker, although given how the entire mag isn't based on parody, I guess it's easy to make that mistake.
I only discovered him about a month or two back myself, and even then I didn't know his name. I just knew there was "this dude with a parody column in the New Yorker."
Ideally, I'd like the Democrats to be a center-left party and the Republicans to be a center-right party. Right now, the Democrats are arguably a center-right party (especially when compared to parties in other countries) and the Republicans are a far-right party.
The Left doesn't really tend to value radio talk shows as much as written word because we are fairly nerdy like that. We like long, drawn out accounts that draw us in emotionally. A quick jibe gets less attention than that article did.
Also, if you haven't read that, please do. It's got 0 to do with economic things, so I don't think anyone here would disagree with it. It's also important to understand what the real, practical implications of policy decisions actually do.
Ah. I thought in the sense of being an emotionally manipulative thing. That article is as manipulative and slanted as Limbaugh is. It just so happens that in this case it is also objectively correct.
I don't think it's manipulative in the way that Limbaugh is manipulative. The author is trying to give the reader a feel for what those kids are feeling, and establish some simpatico. I don't think that's something to disparage.
I don't think it's manipulative in the way that Limbaugh is manipulative. The author is trying to give the reader a feel for what those kids are feeling, and establish some simpatico. I don't think that's something to disparage.
I'm not disparaging it, don't attribute things to me unnecessarily. I'm just saying it's as manipulative to the left as Rush is to the right.
It's just that the things and strategies used to manipulate the Left are very different than what worsk on the right. We need evidence and drawn out emotional appeals. The Right seems to react more to knee jerk reactions, fear, and anger.
Sure, but one is evil propaganda and the other is not.
But they're both propaganda in a broad sense of the term. I like the article, but I see it as a launching point for a discussion of the ideas presented rather than simple evidence.
There's another distinction. For Liberals, an article like this is a prelude to a discussion and a consensus. For the Right, Limbaugh is a call to action and torches and pitchforks and boycotts and angry declarations.
SRS is pretty much the LET'S GO FUCKING FUCK SOME SHIT UP RIGHT NOW contingent of the left. It has nothing to do with what I think about their ideas so much as how they approach them. It's very Limbaugh like. Very emotional, raw, and not a lot of discussion going on except a lot of self reinforcement.
not a lot of discussion going on except a lot of self reinforcement.
exactly. what we feel all the time. turning the tables is fun. [feminist complaint] "y u so sensitive?? [female-related insult]" [racist joke] "that's offensive" "it's just a joke, lighten up."
I can't speak to Limbaugh's motives, but I'm going to speculate that it's not satirical and critical performance. If you want discussion, you have to go to SRSD or one of the other subreddits.
lol muppet, you really hate SRS. maybe because it makes white males like you feel what the rest of us feel all the time.
Ah, yeah, about that - They're kinda literally the worthless, wretched, idiotic scum of the social justice movement that drags the whole thing down, and retards the progress of the movement as a whole with their bullshit antics.
Don't get me wrong - The social justice movement as it stands is great, one of the best movements of recent times, better than Occupy, in my opinion. But SRS is to social justice as Alex Jones and Infowars are to journalism and rational thinking.
exactly. what we feel all the time. turning the tables is fun.
As long as it's a group that, for example, still thinks the term "Special snowflake" is acceptable, you're not turning the tables, you're just stroking your own ego.
Unless you want to explain to me, exactly, why it's an acceptable term, despite being an exact equivalent for calling someone a House Nigger or Uncle tom. Is it that using actual slurs is a little blatant, or is it just the usual cowering behind new words for the same sentiment?
SRS is pretty wonderful, actually. It's so utterly fantastic to see so many butt hurt white tech guys.
Truth. While SRS is basically an inflamed boil on the arse of social justice, they're fucking excellent for entertainment.
I've seen some surprisingly supportive and informed discussion on reddit. But I do love cat pictures...
lol muppet, you really hate SRS. maybe because it makes white males like you feel what the rest of us feel all the time.
Ah, yeah, about that - They're kinda literally the worthless, wretched, idiotic scum of the social justice movement that drags the whole thing down, and retards the progress of the movement as a whole with their bullshit antics.
It can be pretty therapeutic. It's annoying as an oppressed/minority to always walk the high road or have your entire pigeonhole be judged by it. Sadly, a lot of people don't get it because they've never experienced that kind of prejudice, stereotyping, ridicule, and hate.
I don't make racist or sexist jokes and I'm not responsible for people who do just because they look like me. To assert otherwise is dumb even if your motive is satirical statement
Social justice good. Fighting fire with fire just burns more stuff.
I think I'm too old for Reddit. Actually, I'm feeling too old for a lot of internet things. Not out of being old... but out of being out of the loop... *sigh*
I don't make racist or sexist jokes and I'm not responsible for people who do just because they look like me. To assert otherwise is dumb even if your motive is satirical statement
Right, but not all black people are criminals and not all women are gold diggers. Do you enjoy being judged as a group of people for someone else's behavior? Seriously, don't be so sensitive. It's just a joke (;
As long as it's a group that, for example, still thinks the term "Special snowflake" is acceptable, you're not turning the tables, you're just stroking your own ego.
Unless you want to explain to me, exactly, why it's an acceptable term, despite being an exact equivalent for calling someone a House Nigger or Uncle tom. Is it that using actual slurs is a little blatant, or is it just the usual cowering behind new words for the same sentiment?
It's not. That's precisely the point. It's an over the top reversal of our daily experience.
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If the Republican party can no longer depend on tribalism to win national elections, what are they going to do? What kind of party will they become?
What kind of party should they become?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/one-towns-war-on-gay-teens-20120202
The Left doesn't really tend to value radio talk shows as much as written word because we are fairly nerdy like that. We like long, drawn out accounts that draw us in emotionally. A quick jibe gets less attention than that article did.
Also, if you haven't read that, please do. It's got 0 to do with economic things, so I don't think anyone here would disagree with it. It's also important to understand what the real, practical implications of policy decisions actually do.
Anyway, to sate the rage read this
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/13/why-a-bible-belt-conservative-spent-a-year-pretending-to-be-gay/
It's just that the things and strategies used to manipulate the Left are very different than what worsk on the right. We need evidence and drawn out emotional appeals. The Right seems to react more to knee jerk reactions, fear, and anger.
Does that make sense?
[feminist complaint]
"y u so sensitive?? [female-related insult]"
[racist joke]
"that's offensive"
"it's just a joke, lighten up."
Don't get me wrong - The social justice movement as it stands is great, one of the best movements of recent times, better than Occupy, in my opinion. But SRS is to social justice as Alex Jones and Infowars are to journalism and rational thinking. As long as it's a group that, for example, still thinks the term "Special snowflake" is acceptable, you're not turning the tables, you're just stroking your own ego.
Unless you want to explain to me, exactly, why it's an acceptable term, despite being an exact equivalent for calling someone a House Nigger or Uncle tom. Is it that using actual slurs is a little blatant, or is it just the usual cowering behind new words for the same sentiment? Truth. While SRS is basically an inflamed boil on the arse of social justice, they're fucking excellent for entertainment.
Social justice good. Fighting fire with fire just burns more stuff.