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  • My professor used to say that if you wait til you can afford kids, you'll never have them.
    Strangely it was only when I started making enough money to raise a child that I started wanting one. Now I have to wait until I'm time-wealthy as well. And, of course, not single.
  • I'm mildly curious to see what kind of freaky, giant-legged mutant my girlfriend and I would make, but neither of us are curious enough to find out.
  • edited January 2010
    I wanted to have a child when I realized Lisa and I could make something better than the sum of our parts. And then it could grow up and do the same, on down through the generations until I am ultimately responsible for the birth of JEAN MOTHER-FUCKING LUC PICARD.

    Scoff all you want. It will happen. Oh, yes. It will happen.
    Post edited by Jason on
  • I wanted to have a child when I realized Lisa and I could make something better than the sum of our parts. And then it could grow up and do the same, on down through the generations until I am ultimately responsible for the birth of JEAN MOTHER-FUCKING LUC PICARD.

    Scoff all you want. It will happen. Oh, yes. It will happen.
    You just made the list of "fathers I want to be like."
  • Lyddi and I are watching Aliens and she graced me with this gem: "Babies are like aliens, except they come out of your vagina instead of your chest."
  • edited January 2010
    Lyddi and I are watchingAliensand she graced me with this gem: "Babies are like aliens, except they come out of your vagina instead of your chest."
    That's actually how they got the inspiration. All of H.R. Giger's designs for that movie were done with the aim to stir up the most disturbing subconscious associations with sexual functions and organs possible. It's why the Xenomorph's head looks like a giant phallus, but the tongue-mouth was based on the vagina dentata. Giger was fairly good at predicting what would make one's skin crawl.

    Luckily for us, vaginabursters, unlike their chest-inhabiting cousins, bring joy instead of a painful, chewy, acidic death.
    Post edited by WindUpBird on
  • edited January 2010
    Lyddi and I are watchingAliensand she graced me with this gem: "Babies are like aliens, except they come out of your vagina instead of your chest."
    Yeah, I haven't seen Aliens, but that factor made Alien even more uncomfortable. If you look at it right the whole movie is full of fucked up sexual perversions.
    Post edited by Walker on
  • Thoses scary things are not anything your body isn't supposed to go through :-p
    Perhaps, but people die doing it, dude! And you want to feel strange for 9 months and then go through hours of pain, be my guest. I'm just saying it is slightly frightening to me! I'm sure I would take it in stride and get through the birthing process like I got through the flu or a broken hand (except that I would be much happier after.)
  • Thoses scary things are not anything your body isn't supposed to go through :-p
    Perhaps, but people die doing it, dude! And you want to feel strange for 9 months and then go through hours of pain, be my guest. I'm just saying it is slightly frightening to me! I'm sure I would take it in stride and get through the birthing process like I got through the flu or a broken hand (except that I would be much happier after.)
    That is why morphine is used Emily...
  • That is why morphine is used Emily...
    Actually it's an epidural anesthetic.
  • That is why morphine is used Emily...
    Actually it's an epidural anesthetic.
    Regardless, I can see why a woman would be scared of that. But I think it's probably worth it in the end as you'll have something that is your own, the magic of life.
  • Actually it's an epidural anesthetic.
    Opiods + Baby still connected to mother = Bad times.
  • Actually it's an epidural anesthetic.
    Opiods + Baby still connected to mother = Bad times.
    Except not so much. The drugs move into the dura mater, instead of into the bloodstream, so while there's some uptake into the blood, epidurals really are acting on the spinal cord itself, rather than your entire body.

    Epidurals can sometimes make labor take longer, but otherwise, they're fairly safe.
  • Except not so much. The drugs move into the dura mater, instead of into the bloodstream, so while there's some uptake into the blood, epidurals really are acting on the spinal cord itself, rather than your entire body.

    Epidurals can sometimes make labor take longer, but otherwise, they're fairly safe.
    Double dumbass on me - I quoted the wrong person. I meant to quote -
    That is why morphine is used Emily...
    But I still wasn't thinking, and forgot that Morphine is used quite often as an epidural.
  • Double dumbass on me - I quoted the wrong person.
    No worries, just wasn't quite sure where you were coming from.

    The thing that I can't possibly wrap my head around is the fact that women feel labor pain through an epidural. I mean, your lower spinal cord is literally bathed in fentanyl, and it still fucking hurts. Madness.
  • Double dumbass on me
    An intriguing use of language.
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  • edited January 2010
    Clearly this is because I'm a punk kid who's never even had a girlfriend, but all the same I find it difficult to imagine changing my mind on the subject as abruptly as people make it sound.
    It is not abrupt except maybe in the way that hindsight makes all things in the past seem to have happened much faster and closer together. Also remember that, apart from the cases where social norms / personal attitude are behind it, the desire to have children is a biological imperative fueled by hormones and as such parallels can be drawn to such other things such as, e.g., puberty and falling in love.

    So telling someone that "they'll start wanting children someday" is, in my mind, comparable to telling a 5-year old boy that they'll someday fall in love with a girl! Not to speak of telling him what he'll enjoy doing with her. In other words, it is distressing and, although you will probably be found right eventually, absolutely useless.
    Post edited by Dr. Timo on
  • Everyone needs to calm the fuck down and pay attention to the real issue here...

    Kate is going to try and steal my seed.
  • Kate is going to try and steal my seed.
    Tough shit! Also, get a room!
  • I am late as always, but
    Ha, I'm not the only person with a their/there/they're problem :-p
    I never make this mistake, and that's why I'm awesome.
    Everyone needs to calm the fuck down and pay attention to the real issue here...

    Kate is going to try and steal my seed.
    Also, this will never be a problem for me, which is also why I'm awesome.
  • edited January 2010
    That is why morphine is used Emily...
    Actually it's an epidural anesthetic.
    Regardless, I can see why a woman would be scared of that. But I think it's probably worth it in the end as you'll have something that is your own, the magic of life.
    That is completely a personal decision. If parents choose to adopt rather than give birth for any reason, that is also pretty great. Children are equally "magical" whether you physically made them or not.
    Everyone needs to calm the fuck down and pay attention to the real issue here... Kate is going to try and steal my seed.
    Excuse me? I am the one that would prefer adoption and I am not in a hurry to make a child before I complete my Masters and/or you get a good job.

    Also, if I really wanted your seed, I would have it by now and be selling lil' Adam babies on the black market.
    I could make a little sign that said "Will Make Babby for Tuition $$"
    Post edited by Kate Monster on
  • edited January 2010
    Adoption is a not easy. I have tremendous respect for people who adopt.

    Research is very clear that significant damage can be done to a child at extremely early stages, even prior to birth. Genetics are also a huge wild card. Genetics can influence a person's addiction risk, for example.

    I know many wonderful people who have adopted, only to have extremely difficult times. It's quite sad.

    To be fair, many adoptions have happy endings. But I've seen so many that didn't. Just understand the risk.
    Post edited by Kilarney on
  • I am fully aware of the process and risk factors in adoption. There is also a lot of risk in giving birth.
    All a person can do in either place is research, make a plan based on the best information available, and roll the dice.
  • All a person can do in either place is research, make a plan based on the best information available, and roll the dice.
    That, or use the Tekne.
  • Will Make Babby for Tuition $$
  • I am fully aware of the process and risk factors in adoption. There is also a lot of risk in giving birth.
    Surely the risks aren't equal. They are also different.
  • edited January 2010
    I am fully aware of the process and risk factors in adoption. There is also a lot of risk in giving birth.
    Surely the risks aren't equal. They are also different.
    Of course they are different. This really is a question that has a multitude of variables that vary greatly on a person-to-person basis. It depends greatly on what a person values, individual genetics, fertility, health, expense, age, etc.
    Post edited by Kate Monster on
  • GeoGeo
    edited January 2010
    @Kate: I don't disagree with that statement as it is totally valid, but I personally feel there is something a little more special to concieving (I'm not saying it's better than adoption btw) your own child as you are continuing the family line that you yourself came from in the first place. But that's just me.
    Post edited by Geo on
  • You're still continuing the family line. It's just a matter of using different genes.
  • You're still continuing the family line. It's just a matter of using different genes.
    Yeah, you're right.
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