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  • The FIAT 500 Abarth has been released in the US! And we get the 160 hp engine as standard. :D
    I'm going to see it at the show this week. I'm so EXCITED!


  • SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
  • edited November 2011
    Quite.

    EDIT: I'm really just waiting for them to tell me how much they want for it.
    Post edited by George Patches on
  • I wonder how much plasma I'd have to sell to pay off most of the car on a trade...

  • SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
    Other countries always get the best commercials.

  • I'd buy that car if the commercial were an accurate representation of its quality.
  • I'd buy that car if the commercial were an accurate representation of its quality.
    Test drives are free.
  • I'd buy that car if the commercial were an accurate representation of its quality.
    Test drives are free.
    He'd need to learn to drive standard in order to do that. Remember: with Scott, standard transmission is a negative.

  • I'd buy that car if the commercial were an accurate representation of its quality.
    Test drives are free.
    He'd need to learn to drive standard in order to do that. Remember: with Scott, standard transmission is a negative.

    This is an outrage! Someone teach him stick, quick!
  • Who said I didn't know how to drive stick? I haven't in years, and would need some practice, but I can do it.
  • Who said I didn't know how to drive stick? I haven't in years, and would need some practice, but I can do it.
    You were only about a minute ahead of me there, but it's worth noting - I'll back Scott on this, it's been mentioned a few times previously that Scott knows how to drive a stick-shift, but generally chooses not to, rather than being unable.
  • Who said I didn't know how to drive stick? I haven't in years, and would need some practice, but I can do it.
    You were only about a minute ahead of me there, but it's worth noting - I'll back Scott on this, it's been mentioned a few times previously that Scott knows how to drive a stick-shift, but generally chooses not to, rather than being unable.
    My mistake. I'd fix it, but the edit timer lapsed. :/

  • I think I finally figured out the root of my problem with the miata. I'm terrified of it. The handling is nuts. It has steady state understeer when I'm not on the throttle, but switches instantly to death dealing oversteer when I flex my toe. Which is fun and exhilarating when you're driving hard in the dry, but truely terrifying in the wet and legitimately death dealing on snow and ice. I was making a normal right turn this morning in the rain and the car started to step out on me. I just don't have the stones for this car. After years and years of driving a powerful front drive car, I just can't handle this much "fun" everytime the road is a bit damp. I'm gonna look for a AWD car. I'm thinking an Impreza would suit me.
  • As much as I prefer the aesthetic of the Evo, the Impreza does give you a better bang for your buck.

    Still, I would have just tried to increase my driving skill.
  • Is it your first Mid-engine?

    Honestly, what you're talking about as terrifying, I call incredible fun, I like it. One of my favorite things about one of my favorite cars is that, to quote Hammond, "the steering is variable from oversteer to Oh my god we've just crashed."

    I wouldn't say that you don't have the stones for this car. It just doesn't suit your style.
  • George, you near CT? I'm selling my Forester.
  • Is it your first Mid-engine?

    Honestly, what you're talking about as terrifying, I call incredible fun, I like it. One of my favorite things about one of my favorite cars is that, to quote Hammond, "the steering is variable from oversteer to Oh my god we've just crashed."

    I wouldn't say that you don't have the stones for this car. It just doesn't suit your style.
    Not sure I'd call it mid-engined, but I guess you're right. I'm just not comfortable with a car with such a low moment of inertia. I've had it for a year now, it's just not panning out. If I had had a miata as my second car rather than a saab my driving skills would have developed differently. My driving style is setup for a car that understeers.

    Also this is the root of problem and my desire to get rid, I have plenty of logical reasons to get rid. The I don't fit in the cockpit well, the trunk is too small, it's noisy as fuck, and it's light weight means it's outclassed by pretty much anything on the road.
  • edited December 2011
    Not sure I'd call it mid-engined, but I guess you're right
    Fuckin' idiot I am, for some reason I must have mixed it up in my head with the MR2, another one of my favorites, and also prone to oversteer. Never mind me, I'm not with it today.

    That said, you're right on all points. The MX5 has always been pretty tail-happy, and if you're used to FWD, that'll mess with you hard. I have the same problem with understeering cars, not to the same degree, but it's still a problem.

    My opinion - You're right, as decent of a car as it is, it's not the car that suits you, and a good car that doesn't suit you is just as bad(if not worse) as a complete shitbox that does suit. It's not the car's fault, it's not your fault, it's just how it is. And thus, it's best to shuffle it along to another owner, and get a car that suits you better. I mean, I'm a rev head something serious, but you know what I drive - but I like driving it, and it suits me in a particular way. It's nothing to get all goofy over, with the Miata - you tried, and it didn't work out for the best, so try something else. If you're dead keen on getting better with a more tail-happy car that might suit you better, Grab an MR2. Or grab another Saab, or one of the souped-up Golfs. There is a world of vehicles out there for guys like us, George, you know it as well as I do. All you gotta do is find the right glove for your hand, so to speak.
    Post edited by Churba on
  • You figured it out, just not for me. I have enjoyed experiencing what is basically a track car for the road, but I'm ready to move onto something else. I found a 2006 WRX at the dealership across the street, gonna check it out.
  • You figured it out, just not for me. I have enjoyed experiencing what is basically a track car for the road, but I'm ready to move onto something else. I found a 2006 WRX at the dealership across the street, gonna check it out.
    Ooh, I like the rexies. Fun to drive, though I must admit, I still prefer the Impreza personally, and I'm figuring it would suit your style just a hair better than the rexies.
  • You figured it out, just not for me. I have enjoyed experiencing what is basically a track car for the road, but I'm ready to move onto something else. I found a 2006 WRX at the dealership across the street, gonna check it out.
    Ooh, I like the rexies. Fun to drive, though I must admit, I still prefer the Impreza personally, and I'm figuring it would suit your style just a hair better than the rexies.
    I was thinking Impreza, but why get a regular Impreza when i can have one with a turbo on it?
  • You figured it out, just not for me. I have enjoyed experiencing what is basically a track car for the road, but I'm ready to move onto something else. I found a 2006 WRX at the dealership across the street, gonna check it out.
    Ooh, I like the rexies. Fun to drive, though I must admit, I still prefer the Impreza personally, and I'm figuring it would suit your style just a hair better than the rexies.
    I was thinking Impreza, but why get a regular Impreza when i can have one with a turbo on it?
    It's true, but it's a little more than that - The Suspension setup(and maybe the geometry, but I'm unsure exactly) are different, and the balance and steering are kinda different. Small as the differences seem, they do feel kinda different. A WRX will suit you, but try both if you can.
  • You figured it out, just not for me. I have enjoyed experiencing what is basically a track car for the road, but I'm ready to move onto something else. I found a 2006 WRX at the dealership across the street, gonna check it out.
    Ooh, I like the rexies. Fun to drive, though I must admit, I still prefer the Impreza personally, and I'm figuring it would suit your style just a hair better than the rexies.
    I was thinking Impreza, but why get a regular Impreza when i can have one with a turbo on it?
    It's true, but it's a little more than that - The Suspension setup(and maybe the geometry, but I'm unsure exactly) are different, and the balance and steering are kinda different. Small as the differences seem, they do feel kinda different. A WRX will suit you, but try both if you can.
    That's true for the current gen WRX, but the 2006 was the old gen and they were much more in line with the being the same as an impreza. The WRX got firmer springs and shocks (which I'll probably dump for something firmer anyway, same if I had an impreza). I think the WRX STi had slightly different control arms (lighter) and a quicker steering rack.
  • You figured it out, just not for me. I have enjoyed experiencing what is basically a track car for the road, but I'm ready to move onto something else. I found a 2006 WRX at the dealership across the street, gonna check it out.
    Ooh, I like the rexies. Fun to drive, though I must admit, I still prefer the Impreza personally, and I'm figuring it would suit your style just a hair better than the rexies.
    I was thinking Impreza, but why get a regular Impreza when i can have one with a turbo on it?
    It's true, but it's a little more than that - The Suspension setup(and maybe the geometry, but I'm unsure exactly) are different, and the balance and steering are kinda different. Small as the differences seem, they do feel kinda different. A WRX will suit you, but try both if you can.
    That's true for the current gen WRX, but the 2006 was the old gen and they were much more in line with the being the same as an impreza. The WRX got firmer springs and shocks (which I'll probably dump for something firmer anyway, same if I had an impreza). I think the WRX STi had slightly different control arms (lighter) and a quicker steering rack.
    Makes sense to what I get from the feel of it. Wish I had a better way to put it, it sounds so hippy-dippy, but that's how it is. I like them both equally as vehicles, I just have a personal preference for the Imp.

  • You figured it out, just not for me. I have enjoyed experiencing what is basically a track car for the road, but I'm ready to move onto something else. I found a 2006 WRX at the dealership across the street, gonna check it out.
    Ooh, I like the rexies. Fun to drive, though I must admit, I still prefer the Impreza personally, and I'm figuring it would suit your style just a hair better than the rexies.
    I was thinking Impreza, but why get a regular Impreza when i can have one with a turbo on it?
    It's true, but it's a little more than that - The Suspension setup(and maybe the geometry, but I'm unsure exactly) are different, and the balance and steering are kinda different. Small as the differences seem, they do feel kinda different. A WRX will suit you, but try both if you can.
    That's true for the current gen WRX, but the 2006 was the old gen and they were much more in line with the being the same as an impreza. The WRX got firmer springs and shocks (which I'll probably dump for something firmer anyway, same if I had an impreza). I think the WRX STi had slightly different control arms (lighter) and a quicker steering rack.
    Makes sense to what I get from the feel of it. Wish I had a better way to put it, it sounds so hippy-dippy, but that's how it is. I like them both equally as vehicles, I just have a personal preference for the Imp.
    I'm considering one, but i found a nice used WRX first. So it's getting my attention.
  • I'm considering one, but i found a nice used WRX first. So it's getting my attention.
    Go for it, man, I fully support this decision. You're like me in this, and so you know as well as I do, the issue in this that is far above suspension geometry, or engine size, or my advice, or anyone's advice, or anything else, is your driving pleasure, just as it would be mine if the situation were reversed. Sure, all that stuff is taken into consideration - but at the end of the day, that's what matters.
  • Quite, the trouble I'm having right now is whether to keep my miata, or trade it in.
  • If you have money and a place for track day nearby, keep the miata and mod the shit out of it then.
  • If you have money and a place for track day nearby, keep the miata and mod the shit out of it then.
    Not sure I want to make a track car out a car I owe $20K on. >_>
  • edited December 2011
    If you have money and a place for track day nearby, keep the miata and mod the shit out of it then.
    Not sure I want to make a track car out a car I owe $20K on. >_>
    Sorry, I thought it was paid in full (kind of a costa rican thing). Yeah, unless you can get in some way more than 20K by selling it yourself (I kinda doubt it), I'd say trade it in.

    Post edited by MrRoboto on
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