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  • Did you not do the custom install mode? You know, where you can pick the drive, fiddle with partitioning, and all that stuff?

    That's the only way I COULD do it because I can't upgrade an OS that never existed on the drive.
  • Your situation sounds confusing, but if I'm parsing correctly you had Win 7 or 8 on Drive A but wanted Win 10 on Drive B?

    If so then you image your Windows 7 onto the drive you want, upgrade Windows 7 from there off of a USB or directly through Windows 7 upgrade application.
  • I always unplug my other drives now when installing an OS because one time I had set it to install on a particular drive but when it rebooted the drive letters changed and it ended up formatting my whole main drive.
  • edited March 2016
    I built my system about a month after Windows 10 launched so I installed ye olde thyme M.2 drive, installed Win 7, ran the update to 10, then hooked up the 2 SSDs and the spiny disk.

    Smooth as the backside of a baby's buttocks.

    Might I also add that it was odd using a computer with the mobo sitting on the box it came in.
    Post edited by Dromaro on
  • Two drives: Drive A and Drive B. Neither have any OS on them. Therefore I must two Windows 10 to install on one of them. I choose Drive A. HOWEVER! Somewhere in the installation process Windows put a part of itself on Drive B, and that part is essential enough Windows won't let me format Drive B.
  • edited March 2016
    Can't you just boot gparted off of a flash drive and reformat them, then reinstall with only one drive plugged in? Or is there some activation key bullshit?

    On a different note, I looked up other processors officially supported by my desktop and I can get a significantly faster one for like $20 so I thought I might upgrade when I get around to installing a 64 bit os (was only using 2gb of ram before, so 32 bit was fine). The thing is, I'm still using the stock 250 watt psu it came with. Would going from a 45 watt cpu to a 65 or 89 watt cpu be overdoing it?
    Post edited by ninjarabbi on
  • I've been idly speccing out a new main PC for myself (to replace the 2009 monster).

    If I go overboard a little, it looks like this.
    https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22757689

    $1,292.93

    Intel Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz
    ASUS Z170-A Intel Z170 motherboard
    32GB RAM
    2x 500GB SSD
    2x 4TB HDD

    I'd keep my GTX770 for the foreseeable future. Didn't spec out a case/PSU, but everything else I'd possibly need is there.

    I could knock the price down by skipping the mirrored HDDs, getting only one SSD, and getting the 32GB of RAM at 8-8-8-8 instead of 16-16. But I designed it along the same lines as I did my current PC, with an eye to upgradability.
  • Rosewill is pretty sketch. It's newegg's brand. I got a card reader from them that's mostly dead.
  • edited March 2016
    I'm using the Z170-A in my current build, it's quite great. Two caveats to it: it takes a while from start to BIOS while it runs basic checks on the memory and processor, and the DDR4 slots don't give very good feedback for whether your RAM is seated correctly - I ran into trouble initially because I couldn't tell that one of my sticks wasn't seated fully. OTOH, the diagnostics make it easy to diagnose pre-BIOS issues.

    Also, what are you doing with the old monster? Can you save money by cannibalizing hard drives from it?

    Edit: you will need a new card if/when you decide to go for VR.
    Post edited by Linkigi(Link-ee-jee) on
  • Pegu said:

    Rosewill is pretty sketch. It's newegg's brand. I got a card reader from them that's mostly dead.

    Literally no one reputable makes firewire interfaces anymore.


    If I want to go nuts, I could replace one of the SSDs with a PCIe M.2 drive for my main drive.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147467

    The performance difference is ludicrous.


  • Also, what are you doing with the old monster? Can you save money by cannibalizing hard drives from it?

    Those hard drives are:

    32GB SSD (from 2009)
    240GB SSD
    1TB HDD
    2TB HDD

    They're all ancient and not even worth salvaging for a new machine. Better to just leave them in the old monster.

    I might make the monster my HTPC and give the old HTPC (which is pushing EOL) away to someone.

  • Note on that hard drive - while the rest of the drives in that line are 7200RPM, the 4TB drive apparently is not.
  • Note on that hard drive - while the rest of the drives in that line are 7200RPM, the 4TB drive apparently is not.

    That's why it's so cheap. That's for redundant bulk local storage. Lightroom archives, post-convention file dumps, etc... Speed isn't a serious factor.
  • edited March 2016
    I bought a 980Ti to go along with my Skylake i5

    It's stupid fast.
    Post edited by Andrew on
  • I would get a 980 today if I didn't have a 770 already. Its performance is currently constrained by the rest of my rig.
  • I have a 680. Still haven't found a game I can't run at max settings, full screen rez, vsync.
  • Apreche said:

    I have a 680. Still haven't found a game I can't run at max settings, full screen rez, vsync.

    Premiere. =P

  • Apreche said:

    I have a 680. Still haven't found a game I can't run at max settings, full screen rez, vsync.

    Play a VR game or anything made recently that pushes the graphics boundaries.
  • Andrew said:

    Play a VR game or anything made recently that pushes the graphics boundaries.

    Yeah, like Scott will ever do that.

    He'll play today's games in three years and talk about how his GTX1180 is totally fine.

  • edited March 2016
    Rym said:

    Pegu said:

    Rosewill is pretty sketch. It's newegg's brand. I got a card reader from them that's mostly dead.

    Literally no one reputable makes firewire interfaces anymore.
    Get a motherboard that has it built-in? Or is that not a thing anymore?
    Post edited by Pegu on
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RYM, I'M ABLE TO PLAY CSGO AT FULL SETTINGS ON MY 680.
  • Pegu said:

    Rym said:

    Pegu said:

    Rosewill is pretty sketch. It's newegg's brand. I got a card reader from them that's mostly dead.

    Literally no one reputable makes firewire interfaces anymore.
    Get a motherboard that has it built-in? Or is that not a thing anymore?
    Not a thing anymore.

  • What modern game can't I run? The hot new game is the Division. They recommend a 970, but I'm pretty confident I can run it at max with what I have now.
  • edited March 2016
    Apreche said:

    What modern game can't I run? The hot new game is the Division. They recommend a 970, but I'm pretty confident I can run it at max with what I have now.

    Have you tried it? Other graphics game I doubt you could run full settings is Star Wars Battlefront.
    Post edited by Andrew on
  • Rym said:

    Pegu said:

    Rym said:

    Pegu said:

    Rosewill is pretty sketch. It's newegg's brand. I got a card reader from them that's mostly dead.

    Literally no one reputable makes firewire interfaces anymore.
    Get a motherboard that has it built-in? Or is that not a thing anymore?
    Not a thing anymore.
    Ah, ok. My last computer was shortly after yours. Kinda weird seeing as we still have PS/2.

  • Andrew said:

    Apreche said:

    What modern game can't I run? The hot new game is the Division. They recommend a 970, but I'm pretty confident I can run it at max with what I have now.

    Have you tried it? Other graphics game I doubt you could run full settings is Star Wars Battlefront.
    They have about the same recommendation. I highly doubt I would have a problem.

    But my original point stands. There are no games worth playing that require the latest and greatest to play maxed out. There haven't been for a looooong time.

    Let's say there is some great must-play game that won't max out on a 680. That's fine because nobody smart is buying that shit now. Gonna wait for the $10 Steam sale, and by then you'll have the better video card with the money that has been saved. That new video card will play everything for at least 5 more years.
  • Scott you are full of shit. Your magical goal post requires YOUR definition of "worth playing", which hey some how only relates to games five years or older. Imagine that, no wonder your 680 works flawlessly during Civ5.
  • Andrew said:

    Scott you are full of shit. Your magical goal post requires YOUR definition of "worth playing", which hey some how only relates to games five years or older. Imagine that, no wonder your 680 works flawlessly during Civ5.

    Are you trying to argue that Star Wars Battlefront is somehow worth playing and paying $40 for? What makes it any different from any other AAA generic action game besides a Star Wars theme? What makes it different or better enough to be worth $40? Is there such a hurry to play it now, it can't wait until it's $10? Is it worth installing EA Origin garbage?

    Even if indeed it can't be run with a 680 at vsync max settings, it will still run well enough. Lowering the settings enough to keep it at 60fps is unlikely change the gameplay experience in any noticeable way.

    Oh it will? You absolutely need max settings? Are you going to try to argue this game is so good that it's worth paying hundreds of dollars for a video card just to make its graphics a little bit shinier? Exactly how many games are there that will benefit in this way? Is making the graphics a bit shinier in a handful of games worth $400? Is that an intelligent expenditure of hard-earned moneys for someone who doesn't have incredible wealth?

    When Civ VI comes out people will still be playing CS:GO, probably still playing Rocket League. Where will Star Wars: Battlefront be then? Forgotten trash with all the rest.
  • Apreche said:

    I have a 680. Still haven't found a game I can't run at max settings, full screen rez, vsync.

    Apreche said:

    Even if indeed it can't be run with a 680 at vsync max settings, it will still run well enough. Lowering the settings enough to keep it at 60fps is unlikely change the gameplay experience in any noticeable way.

    So now when we see the first statement, we should automagically translate to "I haven't found a game I want to play that can't be run at max settings".
  • Andrew said:

    Apreche said:

    I have a 680. Still haven't found a game I can't run at max settings, full screen rez, vsync.

    Apreche said:

    Even if indeed it can't be run with a 680 at vsync max settings, it will still run well enough. Lowering the settings enough to keep it at 60fps is unlikely change the gameplay experience in any noticeable way.

    So now when we see the first statement, we should automagically translate to "I haven't found a game I want to play that can't be run at max settings".
    Yes, if you are a pedant you would be correct to argue that a rotten apple is still technically fruit, but that doesn't make it fit for human consumption.
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