I know. I'd already shown the guy what it meant, practically led him by the nose to it, and why you might want to use it - he refused on the grounds that it was a made-up term, despite not being able to actually define what a game is beyond the implied "If I don't like it, it's not a game".
Give the guy a fake tartan and see if he gets it (I doubt it).
No need, he started raving about how he knows better because he's, quote, a "Studying engineer" who is "Probably minoring in English."
Sooooooo first year engineering student, so green he's still nursing his hangover from fresher's week.
I know. I'd already shown the guy what it meant, practically led him by the nose to it, and why you might want to use it - he refused on the grounds that it was a made-up term, despite not being able to actually define what a game is beyond the implied "If I don't like it, it's not a game".
Give the guy a fake tartan and see if he gets it (I doubt it).
No need, he started raving about how he knows better because he's, quote, a "Studying engineer" who is "Probably minoring in English."
Sooooooo first year engineering student, so green he's still nursing his hangover from fresher's week.
What do either of those have to do with game design?
What do either of those have to do with game design?
I went and had a quick look - Apparently, there is such a thing as a Video Game engineer, it's a subtype of software engineering. So I guess that's a thing people will pay money for, for some reason. Which he is probably not, I'd think.
Yet to find any course named "Video game English", however.
Software Engineering is not Engineering. If I got my Engineer friends in rooms with people in SE, the SE people would admit "We're not Engineers" and that'd be that.
Engineers work on games, but they're programmers. They major in computer programming.
And if you're specifically majoring in just the programming end, then you have even less ability to talk about what makes a game. At least in my major, Game Design and Development, we have this conversation in like, a handful of different classes where the teacher lets the class just sort of talk it out. So at least someone could say they heard a lot of varied opinions and learned that way.
But no, being a Software Engineer doesn't make one the arbiter of what a game is (nor does it make you an actual Engineer).
Software Engineering is not Engineering. If I got my Engineer friends in rooms with people in SE, the SE people would admit "We're not Engineers" and that'd be that.
I know. It's just some arrogant kid trying to throw about qualifications he's not earned in an internet fight. I was making an offhand comment about how "Unless he's a video game engineer", so I quickly checked if that was a real thing. Turns out it is, so I had to change the line.
I have literally no idea what a Video game engineer does, outside of "Well, it's obvs a software engineer". It doesn't make you an actual engineer, no. In fact, I'm not even convinced that graduating as an engineer makes you an engineer, considering some of the no-hopers I've seen and heard about fresh out of uni. Engineers seem to be like a bizarre sort of vegetable or fruit, they only ripen to usefulness after a few years on the job.
Yup. I graduated as a ME. One of the first things that I learned on the job is that I had no idea how to be an engineer. (I probably still don't, honestly.)
You do get a lot of cool theory during college, though. You get a nice glimpse of the more complex engineering problems, and if you're lucky you get to work on some decently interesting projects.
You do get a lot of cool theory during college, though. You get a nice glimpse of the more complex engineering problems, and if you're lucky you get to work on some decently interesting projects.
The way I've heard it put, is that College(or rather, University, considering the speaker) is where you learn everything you need to know to be an engineer. Once you graduate and get a job, that's where you learn how to be an engineer.
Yup. I graduated as a ME. One of the first things that I learned on the job is that I had no idea how to be an engineer. (I probably still don't, honestly.)
If you want my advice - and honestly really few do but I've learned not to get terribly stressed about that - you do. You know your trade mate. The rest is all just practice, no worries.
At least I can usually rely on a mech en to work a lathe probably without killing themselves by accident, which is a step up. And they tend to be really good at CAD/CAM which is lovely, because I'm very out of practice.
At least I can usually rely on a mech en to work a lathe probably without killing themselves by accident, which is a step up. And they tend to be really good at CAD/CAM which is lovely, because I'm very out of practice.
Half of our classes involved some degree of wrangling Solidworks (or god forbid, CREO) into doing what we wanted. By the end of things all of us could 3D model in our sleep. Which given our lack of sleep, is exactly what we needed for exams, so it all worked out.
I feel like a lot of those skills degrade fairly quickly without use, though. I finally got out of a year-long job doing drawing checking, and I'm not sure if I could pass the EIT without spending significant time relearning fluids, thermo, etc.
Half of our classes involved some degree of wrangling Solidworks (or god forbid, CREO) into doing what we wanted.
God forbid CREO? Shit, man, could be worse - you used to have to write raw APT. Or worse, raw G-code. I would rather work by hand, than do that shit literally ever again, and I never did it that often in the first place - It was just a must-learn, since the dudes I was learning from apparently fed on human suffering.
I swear, I've had nightmares that started like this: % G21 G90 G54 D200
I feel like a lot of those skills degrade fairly quickly without use, though. I finally got out of a year-long job doing drawing checking, and I'm not sure if I could pass the EIT without spending significant time relearning fluids, thermo, etc.
If it makes you feel better, I wouldn't pass at all. I sound confident, because I know machines, tools, and how to build shit, but in reality(or rather, on theory) I'm pretty patchy. If you want to be charitable, nearly clueless with random bursts of knowledge would be more accurate.
God forbid CREO? Shit, man, could be worse - you used to have to write raw APT. Or worse, raw G-code. I would rather work by hand, than do that shit literally ever again, and I never did it that often in the first place - It was just a must-learn, since the dudes I was learning from apparently fed on human suffering.
We had to do a lot of custom Gcode for our AM printers, but we made a bunch of tools to help out with that. I can't imagine doing it 100% by hand. Good grief. I only hate on PTC because the GUI is unintuitive and it never really tells you what it's trying to do to your model when it fails.
We had to do a lot of custom Gcode for our AM printers, but we made a bunch of tools to help out with that. I can't imagine doing it 100% by hand. Good grief.
If anyone with half decent recording equipment could sing a part for a non-commercial cover of Shine A Light by the Rolling Stones I'm doing that would be awesome. Just minute or two of recording, not the whole song.
I'm in this odd position on another forum where I'm defending the right to own a gun, which I don't believe should exist. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Don't don't believe guns should exist but you are arguing for the right to own one? Or did you just get stuck playing devil's advocate, maybe from a constitutional point of view?
Devil's advocate of a sort. I don't view the 2nd amendment as creating a private right to own a gun, but the Supreme Court disagrees with me on that. So until that changes, the right of private gun ownership deserves as much protection as free speech or marriage equality because, in my view, a right is a right no matter how much I think it shouldn't exist.
Well in addition to the Supreme Court interpretation, there are various statments and writings by the Founding Fathers in favor of personal ownership of guns which give credibility that it's what it was intended to mean. I definitely agree that a right's a right regardless of whether you choose to use it though. I don't want to turn this into another debate.
I don't mean to start something, but what statements and writings are you referring to? The Federalists would obviously be against it, what with Adams' Alien and Sedition Acts (and I assume Hamilton supporters had a nasty grudge against private firearms...). Madison didn't even trust us enough to elect the President or the Senate. I doubt he would have trusted us with firearms.
I was about to write a longer post but then I realized I can just link to this and not repeat myself.
I decided to try the denim nerd experience, so I bought a pair of 501 Shrink to Fits and I'm pre-soaking them now. I'm ready to have the world's smelliest jeans 6 months from now.
The "proper" way to wear jeans is not to wash tome for ~6 months to form "high-contrast fades". I decided to try it. It will smell real real bad.
I once had a pair of raw selvedge jeans, I didn't wash them for the first few months. Instead, I'd run them through the high-power UV oven I was using to cure resin. Seven minutes a side, inside and outside. They were really fucking good jeans, pretty sure they got stolen in either France or Belgium.
I buy my jeans from walmart. They're pretty cheap. I wash them after I wear them for a week or so. They last about a year and that's only because I usually put holes in them making shit.
I like box store Levis because they seem slightly meatier than bargain jeans but I don't feel conscious about wearing them in the shop or whatvwr like I might if I was a True Religion fiend.
Also whenever I think of jeans I think of the American Psycho spoof and then I think of the Miles Fisher American Psycho spoof music video for his cover of This Must Be The Place, which inevitably brings me into a serious craving for Talking Heads' Stop Making Sense album.
So as soon as I hear the words Raw Selvedge I'm mentally shortcutting straight to "Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c' est?"
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Sooooooo first year engineering student, so green he's still nursing his hangover from fresher's week.
Yet to find any course named "Video game English", however.
Engineers work on games, but they're programmers. They major in computer programming.
And if you're specifically majoring in just the programming end, then you have even less ability to talk about what makes a game. At least in my major, Game Design and Development, we have this conversation in like, a handful of different classes where the teacher lets the class just sort of talk it out. So at least someone could say they heard a lot of varied opinions and learned that way.
But no, being a Software Engineer doesn't make one the arbiter of what a game is (nor does it make you an actual Engineer).
I have literally no idea what a Video game engineer does, outside of "Well, it's obvs a software engineer". It doesn't make you an actual engineer, no. In fact, I'm not even convinced that graduating as an engineer makes you an engineer, considering some of the no-hopers I've seen and heard about fresh out of uni. Engineers seem to be like a bizarre sort of vegetable or fruit, they only ripen to usefulness after a few years on the job.
You do get a lot of cool theory during college, though. You get a nice glimpse of the more complex engineering problems, and if you're lucky you get to work on some decently interesting projects.
At least I can usually rely on a mech en to work a lathe probably without killing themselves by accident, which is a step up. And they tend to be really good at CAD/CAM which is lovely, because I'm very out of practice.
I feel like a lot of those skills degrade fairly quickly without use, though. I finally got out of a year-long job doing drawing checking, and I'm not sure if I could pass the EIT without spending significant time relearning fluids, thermo, etc.
I swear, I've had nightmares that started like this: % G21 G90 G54 D200 If it makes you feel better, I wouldn't pass at all. I sound confident, because I know machines, tools, and how to build shit, but in reality(or rather, on theory) I'm pretty patchy. If you want to be charitable, nearly clueless with random bursts of knowledge would be more accurate.
I was about to write a longer post but then I realized I can just link to this and not repeat myself.
Also whenever I think of jeans I think of the American Psycho spoof and then I think of the Miles Fisher American Psycho spoof music video for his cover of This Must Be The Place, which inevitably brings me into a serious craving for Talking Heads' Stop Making Sense album.
So as soon as I hear the words Raw Selvedge I'm mentally shortcutting straight to "Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c' est?"