My friend told me a story about a girl he knows who brought a suit against Olive Garden and won. The details were horrific enough to ensure that I'd never eat at one even though I'm not sure I can share them. Not that I would anyway; Chicago has fantastic Italian to begin with.
My deal is, I'm vegetarian for breakfast and lunch if I can help it. I will not let meat go bad, and will eat the leftovers if I have to for lunch and try not to waste anything. For dinner I'll have meat everyday.
My decision to eat meat doesn't really hinge on the ethical or moral considerations of meat consumption, it's more about survival of the species, and passing on a cared-for world to the next people.
So, the questions are, how much meat should I eat and in what way is the meat produced. I'm talking about not only biologically, like dirty conditions which might result in disease, but about how efficiently it's done and how far it's traveled, maximizing all gains and minimizing losses. I'd rather pay more for meat and eat less of it at a higher quality than end up with some crazy disease because I wanted to get it cheap and have it in copious amounts with every meal.
Lastly, nutrition-wise, isn't it better to eat meat of an animal that was well taken care of? I need to find a source for this, but if the animal is malnourished, will the meat lack nutrition? Seems like we're all in agreement that consuming meat is almost non-negotiable - I'm sorry if that strays from the original argument - however, can't we be smarter about it and consider all the nuance that comes along with it?
I've recently started eating meat again because... well, basically because of everything the woman says in this article. Because being vegan isn't healthy for most people, and I can't have dairy, so I gotta have some meat to be healthy. If I don't have some meat, my digestion and my energy level and my joints all just start to break down.
I try to make sure it's sustainable, humane, ethical, and local. Eating meat doesn't absolve you from the responsibilities that vegans and vegetarians are attempting to address, even if they're doing it wrong. I have no problem with vegetarianism - obviously, since I just tried it myself - but it's not a whole solution.
edit: Just noticed I was pre-empted by Scott in the second goddamn post in the thread. Drat.
On Saturday I will be eating Stone Grilled Kobe Beef for the first time and I am very excited By the way if you are on the Rockville MD area I totally recommend this restaurant. Their Toro is fantastic!
I enjoy that everyone has turned a thread about the moral problems of eating meat into a where did you have awesome meat or where you are planning to have awesome meat.
Indeed. So much consumption of delicious meats today.
So far I went to a buffet at the largest casino in the state. I had London broiled beef in a delicious sauce along with Oscar Chicken. They also had this really yummy Indian fried bread which is basically donut bread, but mmm.
Now, off to Jeremy's relatives for a more traditional Thanksgiving dinner.
Oh man, out turkey came out PERFECT. After brining and cooking, it was SO SOFT; it was falling apart. Everything else was pretty good, but nothing compared to the turkey OH MY GOD.
We got a cake for thanksgiving. It is four layers of chocolate cake with a different type of chocolate filling between each layer. Altogether it weighs nine pounds and was made over the course of two days by an artisanal chocolatier. I wish I could eat it forever.
I could only finish one plate of food, piled quite high. It was glorious. We contributed a leek and mushroom gratin, and green beans with bacon and onions, with a sherry vinegrette whose "oil" base was actually the rendered bacon fat. Those too were glorious. Drinks for the evening included Basil Hayden bourbon, Dogfish Head World Wide Stout and Olde School Barleywines, and Redhook's Winterhook. Pumpkin pie, apple pie, and pumpkin cheesecake for desert. Champagne.
I want them to farm that shit in the US. It'd tear a good chunk of greenhouse gas emissions out of the country's total if the beef industry shrank and the 'roo industry grew.
I want them to farm that shit in the US. It'd tear a good chunk of greenhouse gas emissions out of the country's total if the beef industry shrank and the 'roo industry grew.
I want them to farm that shit in the US. It'd tear a good chunk of greenhouse gas emissions out of the country's total if the beef industry shrank and the 'roo industry grew.
It does have it's own unique problems - for a start, imagine the fences you have to have for animals which generally move about 40-50 kilometers an hour, can outfight an unarmed human, and can jump about 6-7 meters in the air. They can be a wee bit tricky, at times.
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My decision to eat meat doesn't really hinge on the ethical or moral considerations of meat consumption, it's more about survival of the species, and passing on a cared-for world to the next people.
So, the questions are, how much meat should I eat and in what way is the meat produced. I'm talking about not only biologically, like dirty conditions which might result in disease, but about how efficiently it's done and how far it's traveled, maximizing all gains and minimizing losses. I'd rather pay more for meat and eat less of it at a higher quality than end up with some crazy disease because I wanted to get it cheap and have it in copious amounts with every meal.
Lastly, nutrition-wise, isn't it better to eat meat of an animal that was well taken care of? I need to find a source for this, but if the animal is malnourished, will the meat lack nutrition? Seems like we're all in agreement that consuming meat is almost non-negotiable - I'm sorry if that strays from the original argument - however, can't we be smarter about it and consider all the nuance that comes along with it?
I try to make sure it's sustainable, humane, ethical, and local. Eating meat doesn't absolve you from the responsibilities that vegans and vegetarians are attempting to address, even if they're doing it wrong. I have no problem with vegetarianism - obviously, since I just tried it myself - but it's not a whole solution.
edit: Just noticed I was pre-empted by Scott in the second goddamn post in the thread. Drat.
First, thinking about the exoskeleton and such, not a pleasant feeling in the mouth.
Second, I once accidentally at an earwig what was hiding in a straw I used. It was so nasty.
By the way if you are on the Rockville MD area I totally recommend this restaurant.
Their Toro is fantastic!
So far I went to a buffet at the largest casino in the state. I had London broiled beef in a delicious sauce along with Oscar Chicken. They also had this really yummy Indian fried bread which is basically donut bread, but mmm.
Now, off to Jeremy's relatives for a more traditional Thanksgiving dinner.
We got a cake for thanksgiving. It is four layers of chocolate cake with a different type of chocolate filling between each layer. Altogether it weighs nine pounds and was made over the course of two days by an artisanal chocolatier. I wish I could eat it forever.
I fucking love this goddamn fucking holiday.
Anyone Fancy a Drumstick?