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  • Let's discuss what the victory conditions should be for each map in the scrim. My thoughts:

    1) pl_goldrush
    Each team has a single turn to attack, and one to defend. Whichever team got more checkpoints in their turn to attack is the winner; if both teams get an equal number, the victory goes to whichever team did it the quickest (i.e. stopwatch mode).

    2) cp_gorge
    As above.

    3) koth_badlands
    The standard 3 minute countdown for each team seems fine. However, since KoTH rounds are relatively short, I don't think we want to play only one round. Besides, we also want to see both teams try a variety of strategies, so perhaps we make it best of 3?

    4) arena_sawmill
    As with KoTH, the default should be fine, but we definitely want multiple rounds as arena rounds are extremely short. In particular, since you can't even change class in arena, multiple rounds are a necessity so that we see some variation in strategy. Perhaps a best of 5?

    5) ctf_doublecross
    I'm not sure how we're going to handle CTF. There was some discussion before but I don't think we came to a conclusion. For one thing, I want it to be about actually capturing the flag - if the game ends with a score of 2-0 where the cap limit is 3, the game should almost certainly go to whichever team had 2 caps. We definitely need a time limit - perhaps 15 minutes or so? I guess at the end of the time limit the winner would be decided by captures, perhaps with some use of individual player scores or kill counts.
    I think we should only play one round of CTF, so if we want to use a cap limit it should be reasonably high, something like 7 captures.

    6) cp_granary
    We could do only one round of this, though I feel that wouldn't really be adequate, especially given the potential for seeing some variation in strategy. However, I don't know how long a single round would take. If it only takes 6 minutes or so, then we can do best of 3.

    7) koth_sawmill
    Same as for koth_badlands
    Yes.
  • I agree with all this. You basically solved the one worry I was having about the asymmetric maps.
  • Just one last thing:

    What time during the day do we want to do this saturday, in either EDT or GMT? I think early to mid afternoon EDT would be best for me, but I can modify that opinion.


    Also, this isn't just going to be a jam, kids. It's going to be a...
  • I will not be able to participate unless it takes place after 3PM PST.
  • Looks like I have to bail, unless the library near my cottage has sufficiently low ping on its wifi. Which it won't.
  • When you said 'scout party at the point', I thought you were commenting on you two being scouts and running circles around the heavy. Did you mean that we should also take scouts?
  • I'm currently on the fence about dropping out, because I signed up to have fun and after playing just now of the server with the "scrim rules" I can't see myself having fun while playing.
  • Since no-one is on, I can't really join the server to check - what rules do you mean?
  • Since no-one is on, I can't really join the server to check - what rules do you mean?
    We were playing with only the standard weapons.
  • edited July 2011
    We were playing with only the standard weapons.
    Well, we were more asking, since Team Breakfast club was having a practice, rather than the actual server rules. Though now that I have YER and Dead ringer, I can start to see your point, they are fun weapons to use, though I am not going to drop, I happy to be in either way, because I get to have a blast with a whole mess of other FRC people. If we lose, it hardly matters to me, this is like a game of touch footy in the park, or beach cricket - sure, you're playing to win, but the object of the picnic is fun, not prizes and trophies. That's why I suggested the losing teams face off, too, since then I get to play against a larger number of people, as does my team, and the other teams.
    Since no-one is on, I can't really join the server to check - what rules do you mean?
    We were asking people to run with standard weapons with us, as kind of an ad-hoc enlistment into our practice session. It wasn't really strictly adhered to, though most were kind enough to indulge us, Kiey included, for which we thank him and everyone else.
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  • Dear Team Seaslug,

    I'm almost certain that I will not be able to attend this Saturday's festivities due to family coming into town. My sincerest apologies.
  • Dear Team Seaslug,

    I'm almost certain that I will not be able to attend this Saturday's festivities due to family coming into town. My sincerest apologies.
    Oh no, Team Seaslug won't have Ro or I...
  • I think the scrim idea has lost critical mass.
  • I think most teams will be able to manage 6v6, even if 8v8 is out of the question.
  • I've been waiting for this. It's time to play a real game.

    Anyone for Counter-Strike?

  • It'd be hopeless with my ping, but I'd be willing to try anyway. Perhaps enough of the forum will be bad enough at the game that I can beat them.
  • Perhaps enough of the forum will be bad enough at the game that I can beat them.
    I'm almost certain. Another strategy for bad ping is to be the VIP/bomb planter/hostage rescuer. If you get protected you don't have to shoot anyone.
  • edited July 2011
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    Aw, Not really gonna hate on counterstrike though. After all, one would assume it normally costs a hell of a lot more than twenty bucks to get teabagged by an 12 year old while they scream obscenities and racial slurs.
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  • I've been waiting for this. It's time to play a real game.

    Anyone for Counter-Strike?

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    Fuck you. I will herd these cats across any distance it takes, just to prove you wrong. :3
  • Fuck you. I will herd these cats across any distance it takes, just to prove you wrong. :3
    On that note, Might I suggest moving the Picnic to a slightly later date? It's not like we're on a fixed timeframe, and if this goes well, we could always hold a friendly match or two between the teams once a month or so, for a random timeframe pulled from thin air.
  • Fuck you. I will herd these cats across any distance it takes, just to prove you wrong. :3
    On that note, Might I suggest moving the Picnic to a slightly later date? It's not like we're on a fixed timeframe, and if this goes well, we could always hold a friendly match or two between the teams once a month or so, for a random timeframe pulled from thin air.
    That's probably what I'll do.

    TIME TO DO SOMETHING WILL WILL MAKE FUN OF ME FOR, BUT WHO CARES AS LONG AS IT WORKS.

    The Doodle page for the Scrim.

    Choose days and times that work best for you guys, and Doodle will do it's best to come up with a day and time that works out best for each of us.

    Watch as we all choose mutually exclusive days.
  • I've been waiting for this. It's time to play a real game.

    Anyone for Counter-Strike?
    I've never played this Counter-Strike game you speak of. What sort of hats are available in it?
  • So three people drop out for the Saturday scrim and it means the other 20something of use can't join the server anyway to have fun at the planned time?
  • So three people drop out for the Saturday scrim and it means the other 20something of use can't join the server anyway to have fun at the planned time?
    (It's because we are the good players :-p)
  • So? Who cares? Are the rest of us only there as cannon fodder for the chosen few? If so, it's better that you aren't there, and use mere mortals can get on with the fun.

    Don't wimp out now, Neito!
  • So? Who cares? Are the rest of us only there as cannon fodder for the chosen few? If so, it's better that you aren't there, and use mere mortals can get on with the fun.
    I guess the plebeians should have some fun to :-p
  • So three people drop out for the Saturday scrim and it means the other 20something of use can't join the server anyway to have fun at the planned time?
    I agree. Play with as many players as the teams can muster. If things work out well we can do it again later.
  • edited July 2011
    So? Who cares? Are the rest of us only there as cannon fodder for the chosen few? If so, it's better that you aren't there, and use mere mortals can get on with the fun.

    Don't wimp out now, Neito!
    Please. "Spiting Scott" is a very powerful motivator, that I assume he uses to get people to do things that he wants them to do like some sort of mad scientist.

    <Scott> Don't jump off that bridge. You'll kill yourself.
    <Everyone> FUCK YOU SCOTT. *jumps off bridge.*
    Post edited by Neito on
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