I think that a responsibly armed populace is better for a nation like the US culturally than an emasculated, scared populace. I know a glock isn't going to outshoot a tank but I don't like the corrupt government being the only party with weapons and know how.
is an argument? It's an opinion.
I'm referring to "needs of the many" logic whereby 100 defenseless people slaughtered by a lone gunman is OK in light of overarching statistics that show it's an anomaly.
Also, that wasn't said you dumb fuck. What was said was that your bullshit "It would have been less horrible if someone else had a gun" is statistically unlikely if someone else did have a gun. For your suggestion to happen the situation would have to become a statistical anomaly.
Are you off your drugs yet? You were doing so well, but now you've gone back to being a complete dumbfuck.
Son, you need a softer target if you're gonna troll successfully. You got some over on me while I was medicated. Now you're done.
Calling you a dumb fuck is me stating my opinion of you in this matter. I'm pointing out to you that you appear too stupid to differentiate facts and arguments from opinions. And apparently you cannot differentiate someone insulting you for the utter stupidity you post with someone trolling you. How the fuck? Stop taking your drugs, they are actively making you batshit insane or dumb as a brick.
Picking out a one paragraph tangent from a thread full of discussion and using it to indict a whole conversation isn't trolling?
News to me.
That's not what was done you dumb fuck. You also didn't contribute a single fucking thing of worth to the discussion other people were actually having.
Is this the part where me responding to you to tell you how bored I am is considered just as successful as me arguing with you would be? Really, I expect better quality stuff on a forum like this.
Is this the part where me responding to you to tell you how bored I am is considered just as successful as me arguing with you would be? Really, I expect better quality stuff on a forum like this.
I have to point this out. You do realize that saying "I'm bored" in this context will pretty much always be taken as "I've lost, I have absolutely no response" but with a thick veneer of pretentiousness about it?
If you were really that bored and unconcerned, you'd more likely stop responding, than tell everybody about how bored you are.
Is this the part where me responding to you to tell you how bored I am is considered just as successful as me arguing with you would be? Really, I expect better quality stuff on a forum like this.
I have to point this out. You do realize that saying "I'm bored" in this context will pretty much always be taken as "I've lost, I have absolutely no response" but with a thick veneer of pretentiousness about it?
If you were really that bored and unconcerned, you'd more likely stop responding, than tell everybody about how bored you are.
It's lose/lose. If I'm bored, and I say so, then this will be the assumption people will make. If I just stop responding, people will assume I'm chastened. This is why trolling works.
Now, you could argue that caring about whether or not people think I'm feeling chastened indicates a successful troll. Touche, then, no comeback for that one.
It's lose/lose. If I'm bored, and I say so, then this will be the assumption people will make. If I just stop responding, people will assume I'm chastened. This is why trolling works.
Now, you could argue that caring about whether or not people think I'm feeling chastened indicates a successful troll. Touche, then, no comeback for that one.
Yeah, pretty much. Frankly, I'd rather just take my leave than be bothered to say much about it, mostly because it's not worth the calories at that point, and it just opens me up to further insults.
I could say that, yeah. I didn't think to, though, honestly, you beat me to it. But it is a good point.
I saw an interesting comment on the current iteration of the Gun control debate, which goes like this:
How about instead of after every major shooting we talk about the need to fund mental health instead of talking about gun rights?
And another:
I think we could far better utilize our time and resources treating mentally ill people like this so that they will never want to do something like this in the first place whether it's with a gun, bombs, arson, or anything else.
I think instead we should focus on helping them so that they never mentally degrade to the point where they're willing to do something like this.
They should never be allowed to become that ill in the first place, and the fact that they do is our fault, so let's do something about it and help them.
There was a good point made on Salon, even though they were politicizing the shooting which is getting tiresome, they did it in a fairly upright way. They made the point that this shooting and others like it demonstrate that if someone wants to kill a lot of people in a public place, it's fairly easy to do so. Given that it happens so infrequently, it's very clear that the threat of terrorism is grandly overstated in the US.
I am way late to the party on this front, but the whole "If you took the guns away, this wouldn't happen!" is kind of an untrue statement. I point you to the Akihabara massacre. 7 dead, 10 injured, and the weapons were a truck and a knife. Granted, it's less than the shootings (guns are more efficient at injuring people) but crazy people are going to crazy regardless of the type of weapons they have. I think the best way to prevent this is better access to mental health care, and early intervention. The college psych doctor almost was able to deal with this guy, but then he dropped out of school.
The reasons why we should try to keep guns away from high population centers is because of the risk of stray bullets. Whether it comes from a bad guy or a good guy, a misfired shot has a good chance of flying though someone's floor or window and killing a poor little kid or something. 8 Year old shot in Bronx Bodega. He survived the attack. Apparently he is a really sweet little kid, and the owner of the bodega said that when he was in shock, he kept apologizing for bleeding on the floor of the shop. (T_T)
PAUL RYAN? I guess the Republican party is done pretending they have any real interest in helping the American people and only interested in fear laced ideology with this pick for VP.
You guys know that Ryan's budget changed less than 2% of the budget and the problems it had were the same problems as every other budget from the last decade, right?
Also, a non-trivial percentage of the Revolutionaries will think Paul Ryan is Ron Paul.
I would absolutely not be surprised. Then again, some of them think that's the case...because it's a conspiracy to get all the people who would have voted for Ron Paul to get confused, and vote for Romney.
Wat.
Then again, these are the same twits who will argue with equal passion that businesses should be allowed to discriminate against people because of the colour of their skin, but not because they're carrying a firearm of any sort.
That aside, they were technically correct - A Paul did get the VP nomination - and Paul Ryan is also an Ayn Rand obsessed objectivist Twatbiscut, but at least it's only VP, he's got relatively little power, as it stands.
The nomination is an attempt to impress the base. He'll probably get one or two percent of the vote more to go out to the polls and vote for him, but it won't change his numbers in any individual states.
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Are you off your drugs yet? You were doing so well, but now you've gone back to being a complete dumbfuck.
News to me.
If you were really that bored and unconcerned, you'd more likely stop responding, than tell everybody about how bored you are.
Now, you could argue that caring about whether or not people think I'm feeling chastened indicates a successful troll. Touche, then, no comeback for that one.
I could say that, yeah. I didn't think to, though, honestly, you beat me to it. But it is a good point.
The reasons why we should try to keep guns away from high population centers is because of the risk of stray bullets. Whether it comes from a bad guy or a good guy, a misfired shot has a good chance of flying though someone's floor or window and killing a poor little kid or something.
8 Year old shot in Bronx Bodega. He survived the attack. Apparently he is a really sweet little kid, and the owner of the bodega said that when he was in shock, he kept apologizing for bleeding on the floor of the shop. (T_T)
Wat.
Then again, these are the same twits who will argue with equal passion that businesses should be allowed to discriminate against people because of the colour of their skin, but not because they're carrying a firearm of any sort.
That aside, they were technically correct - A Paul did get the VP nomination - and Paul Ryan is also an Ayn Rand obsessed objectivist Twatbiscut, but at least it's only VP, he's got relatively little power, as it stands.