I'd like to think of it as active preparedness. I'd carry a kubotan and a folding knife on my person right now if I wasn't in the UK. Also, the giant carabiners I use to secure things to my belt are multipurpose: gadget ring, prevents key loss, can be used to secure things or tow a car, and make for excellent makeshift brass knuckles.
Oh how lucky I am for having two working legs to run away with and a working lungs and mouth to yell help with. Those are my self defense tools of choice.
I'd like to think of it as active preparedness. I'd carry a kubotan and a folding knife on my person right now if I wasn't in the UK. Also, the giant carabiners I use to secure things to my belt are multipurpose: gadget ring, prevents key loss, can be used to secure things or tow a car, and make for excellent makeshift brass knuckles.
A metal sharpie would be a great kubotan and it's 100% legal. And can't you still have a folding knife on you as ony as it's under 2 or 3 inches and isn't locking?
Oh how lucky I am for having two working legs to run away with and a working lungs and mouth to yell help with. Those are my self defense tools of choice.
Funny, I generally just take a beating until it stops.
Generally? Mr. Steak, please feel comfortable talking about any past issues or problems. This is a safe place, no-one will hurt you here. (Mostly because we haven't invented slaps that carry across Internet tubing yet).
Could someone please elaborate on the Reddit thing?
Gladly. Reddit has, in the past, taken part in vigilante justice. This has manifested in harassment of the guilty party. Things including phone calls, letters, visits and even various shenanigans have happened.
Funny, I generally just take a beating until it stops.
Generally? Mr. Steak, please feel comfortable talking about any past issues or problems. This is a safe place, no-one will hurt you here. (Mostly because we haven't invented slaps that carry across Internet tubing yet).
Yeah, there shouldn't be a "generally". I haven't been in a fight since middle school and even then it was nothing serious. You alright man?
If the legal system has already failed you, then asking for legal advice from people who are NOT your lawyer is unlikely to yield something useful. Presumably the lawyer you hired knows more about your case and made the best case possible against this guy. Or you hired a shitty lawyer, in which case your only recourse is probably to hire another one and sue the first one for malpractice to get your money back. You have to prove a pretty shit job to win a malpractice suit, though.
The legal system sucks if you don't have money but also aren't living at the bottom of the poverty barrel. There is little-to-no legal aid for people in between dirt-fucking-poor and reasonably wealthy. This is why people so often take things into their own hands.
Now make no mistake, I do not advocate dunking any particular person into a 55 gallon drum of industrial solvent, but if you were to ask your friends who work in various science labs, I'm sure someone could help you come up with a way to dispose of someone.
Basically, the legal system hands down unfair decisions. Lawyers are often not that good at their jobs and do not help their clients make the best case. It sounds like the guy was just kind of incompetent. However, if she really feels threatened, definitely seek further counsel with the anti-domestic violence/anti-stalking organizations. They might be able to help more.
Basically, the legal system hands down unfair decisions. Lawyers are often not that good at their jobs and do not help their clients make the best case. It sounds like the guy was just kind of incompetent. However, if she really feels threatened, definitely seek further counsel with the anti-domestic violence/anti-stalking organizations. They might be able to help more.
We have to remember that the people on the reverse side of these kind of attack also need protecting. It is just as possible(and I am definitely not inferring that this is the case this time) that someone as crazy as the person loltsunder is describing could fabricate this kind of abuse. It is just as common for these kinds of people to pretend that someone is intending them harm or stalking them and that is why legal recourse in this matter is not as easy as it should be.
Asking reddit for help is like asking /b/ for help with a higher incidence rate of trolls. Also a gun is never a good idea for personal self defense.
Funny, I generally just take a beating until it stops.
Generally? Mr. Steak, please feel comfortable talking about any past issues or problems. This is a safe place, no-one will hurt you here. (Mostly because we haven't invented slaps that carry across Internet tubing yet).
I was just pointing out yet another option beyond just fight and flee. Picking a fight you won't win is bad. Sometimes running away just gets someone angrier. Sometimes taking a hit is the best option. YMMV of course.
Don't worry, Creamsteak, I was merely 'taking the piss'. It's something that I've learned from Churba. I think it went pretty well for my first time, don't you think?
Don't worry, Creamsteak, I was merely 'taking the piss'. It's something that I've learned from Churba. I think it went pretty well for my first time, don't you think?
Don't worry, Creamsteak, I was merely 'taking the piss'. It's something that I've learned from Churba. I think it went pretty well for my first time, don't you think?
Bad result, reeks of bitterness and shame. But you're making an effort, Keep trying.
Oh how lucky I am for having two working legs to run away with and a working lungs and mouth to yell help with. Those are my self defense tools of choice.
Good choice. No amount of guns, knives, and fancy hand-to-hand techniques beats running away screaming.
Saying it like that sounds silly, but it's the first and most important thing anyone will teach you in a self-defense class.
Good choice. No amount of guns, knives, and fancy hand-to-hand techniques beats running away screaming.
You're aware guns are ranged weapons, right?
Yes. My solution to the extremely unlikely and rare situation where I would face a gun my self defense technique of choice would be doing what the guy with the gun wants. Because at that point doing anything else is too risky.
Good choice. No amount of guns, knives, and fancy hand-to-hand techniques beats running away screaming.
You're aware guns are ranged weapons, right?
And the only time you'll outrun a bullet is if it's not been fired.
The problem, really, on betting on a single strategy - there's always someone who can run faster, fight harder, shoot straighter, or do what you're trying to do better than you can, or at least, have some way to defeat it, ie, the outrun-a-bullet scenario. A lot of the time, you don't know that till you try that strategy, at which point it's a little too late, and you'll find yourself in that delicate condition known as "Fucked."
That said though, I don't think getting a firearm would be a wise idea in this situation. I would exhaust all of your other options first.
The odds of getting into any kind of fight, even a mugging, are VERY low, practically nonexistent. Unless you make poor decisions, live in an actually dangerous area (there aren't that many), or behave in such a way that would attract the unwanted attention of aggressive individuals, you are unlikely to ever run into a situation where you're forced to fight or flee.
The odds of getting into any kind of fight, even a mugging, are VERY low, practically nonexistent. Unless you make poor decisions, live in an actually dangerous area (there aren't that many), or behave in such a way that would attract the unwanted attention of aggressive individuals, you are unlikely to ever run into a situation where you're forced to fight or flee.
This. This +100. I've lived in some semi-sketchy areas, but mostly know how to be fairly invisible while walking around and whatnot. Just use some common sense and don't plan on getting into a fight, that's generally the best way to not end up being shot/mugged/beaten up/curbstomped.
The odds of getting into any kind of fight, even a mugging, are VERY low, practically nonexistent. Unless you make poor decisions, live in an actually dangerous area (there aren't that many), or behave in such a way that would attract the unwanted attention of aggressive individuals, you are unlikely to ever run into a situation where you're forced to fight or flee.
In a very general sense, true enough to pass muster. I could pick nits, but they're small enough to not be worth it right now, other than the very general statement of "It pays to be careful." I don't think your advice is terribly helpful in this situation, though, as decent and well-intentioned as it is.
Edit - That said, most of the advice in this thread is goddamn terrible. Try some more legal(if you're qualified, or at least somewhat so) or non-violent advice, guys.
Good choice. No amount of guns, knives, and fancy hand-to-hand techniques beats running away screaming.
You're aware guns are ranged weapons, right?
Yes. My solution to the extremely unlikely and rare situation where I would face a gun my self defense technique of choice would be doing what the guy with the gun wants. Because at that point doing anything else is too risky.
Just don't get into a car with them. If they get you into a car, you're either getting kidnapped or you might as well be already dead. But if someone just wants your wallet, give them your fucking wallet.
The odds of getting into any kind of fight, even a mugging, are VERY low, practically nonexistent. Unless you make poor decisions, live in an actually dangerous area (there aren't that many), or behave in such a way that would attract the unwanted attention of aggressive individuals, you are unlikely to ever run into a situation where you're forced to fight or flee.
Can we not start victim-blaming here? That's not a very nice thing to do.
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The legal system sucks if you don't have money but also aren't living at the bottom of the poverty barrel. There is little-to-no legal aid for people in between dirt-fucking-poor and reasonably wealthy. This is why people so often take things into their own hands.
I'M HELPING!
Asking reddit for help is like asking /b/ for help with a higher incidence rate of trolls. Also a gun is never a good idea for personal self defense.
Saying it like that sounds silly, but it's the first and most important thing anyone will teach you in a self-defense class.
The problem, really, on betting on a single strategy - there's always someone who can run faster, fight harder, shoot straighter, or do what you're trying to do better than you can, or at least, have some way to defeat it, ie, the outrun-a-bullet scenario. A lot of the time, you don't know that till you try that strategy, at which point it's a little too late, and you'll find yourself in that delicate condition known as "Fucked."
That said though, I don't think getting a firearm would be a wise idea in this situation. I would exhaust all of your other options first.
Edit - That said, most of the advice in this thread is goddamn terrible. Try some more legal(if you're qualified, or at least somewhat so) or non-violent advice, guys.