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== every movement has its idiots irrelevant to the legitimacy of the movement. see atheism + misogyny.
== every movement has its idiots irrelevant to the legitimacy of the movement. see atheism + misogyny.But the main problem with feminism and social justice is that not only are the problems often ignored or unrecognized, but people who point them out are actively attacked for doing so, and it's not small enough of a problem to say "Hey, it's just a small few assholes"
Do you REALLY believe feminism & social justice are the only movements with this problem?
Do you really believe that a MAJORITY of those involved in that movement defend their leaders to the point of hypocrisy?
And that it's only a problem for them and not everyone else? Really? Seriously?
I agree with everything Churba says except that I don't think Churba realizes how much various branches of feminism hate each other.
Nobody even notices the people calling them out.
All the history, good or bad, will always exist. There is no way to sweep it clear and to be honest it wouldn't be a good idea anyway because many of the extremists have or can express ideas others won't. Furthermore, it's not like they've even done much in the way of lasting institutional harm due to the fact that they don't have any power, which is probably why they are feminists in the first place. If we're going to get angry at feminists over Valerie Solanas and dismiss the entire movement over it, we should probably shoot the religious in the streets.
Do you REALLY believe feminism & social justice are the only movements with this problem?I'll answer that question when you tell me when I implied or said that was the case. We're not talking about any other movements, so why bring them up? Also, if other movements have similar problems, how does that change even one iota the fact that these problems are present within the feminist movement?
Pointing fingers at other groups isn't really an argument. It's not an indictment only of that group, but it is VERY prevalent in that group. There's a reason that feminism is almost synonymous with misandry and it's not angry white men.
also lou: have the baby at pax and/or make it a famous pax baby
I broke a guitar string.
I broke a guitar string.OH NO! Is your guitar unscratched?
I didn't know about the horrors of bad fresh mozzarella. The kind in ball form with brine and everything? It's a whole new kind of a horrid stench when dealing with cheese. @_@;
I do not think those reasons are what you think they are, nor do I think your perception of it is well-informed. Regardless, that isn't what I am talking about.
I do not think those reasons are what you think they are, nor do I think your perception of it is well-informed. Regardless, that isn't what I am talking about.By this you mean I'm not adequately steeped in doctrine to converse at your level of feminism-cum-Scientology. I'll consider that a point of pride.