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GeekNights Thursday - Fake Geeks

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  • It's fun to see the dichotomy of our fans as time has gone on.

    1. Forumites: largely don't listen to the show.

    2. Fan Friends: people we know in real life who we met via them being fans of the show.

    3. Straight Fans: very enthusiastic in person, never join forums.
    4. The few freaks who listen to show and also go to forums.
    Geeknights: where dichotomies have 4 items.

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    I am tragically number 4 on this list.

    omg i luv you Rym and Scott your my heroes!!!
    Post edited by open_sketchbook on
  • I am tragically number 4 on this list.
  • The one girl I knew who might be labeled as a "fake geek girl" was interested in geekeries, but had no desire to explore beyond a level that made her interesting to a certain demographic of people. The part that frustrated me was that she was nice and really fun to hang out with but I found it obnoxious that she felt the need to personify herself as someone she was not.

    This is in no way singular to "geek girls" I've noticed a lot of people who did stupid shit to "fit in" with a certain crew of people.
  • I don't consider myself a 'fan'
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    I am tragically number 4 on this list
    I very recently mutated into category 4
    Post edited by spikespiguel1 on
  • Another number 4 here. I don't understand why someone who listens to the podcast wouldn't join the forums. Everyone here seems friendly enough.
  • Andrew you are forever a number 2, just like my WIFE, is a number 2 for my web comic back in the day regardless of what her current title is :-p
  • Last year at pax prime I did a trivia thing for a dinky little pin from a booth. I had to answer what game the " what is a man..." Quote was from. I'm sitting there saying "I'm pretty positive it's symphony of the night." The correct answer of course was simply castlevania. Granted it was just someone running the booth but who the fuck made the answer sheet and doesn't include the subtitle?
  • Definitely a number 4 here, although I usually end up listening to the show a few days after its published.
  • The questions they asked on that "King of the Nerds" raged me pretty hard for similar reasons. "What's the chance to get a critical hit in dungeons and dragons?"

    What edition? Are we going OD&D 1974? Did that even have critical hits?
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    The questions they asked on that "King of the Nerds" raged me pretty hard for similar reasons. "What's the chance to get a critical hit in dungeons and dragons?"

    What edition? Are we going OD&D 1974? Did that even have critical hits?
    Depends on the weapon.

    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#tableWeapons

    How about those 18-20, 19-20 guys?

    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/actionsInCombat.htm#criticalHits

    How about that separate crit roll?

    And that's only one edition.
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    Just say 1/20:
    Proctor: All right, here's your last question. What was the cause of
    the Civil War?

    Apu: Actually, there were numerous causes. Aside from the obvious
    schism between the abolitionists and the anti-abolitionists,
    there were economic factors, both domestic and inter--

    Proctor: Wait, wait... just say slavery.
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  • Right, but it's "King of the Nerds". I expect highly specific esoteric information to be in play.
  • While the contestants may be nerds (or geeks, or fans, or whatever), It's a given that fair number of the staff aren't. If you aren't at least a D&D geek (using the definition from that last geeknights episode), how would you know enough to write a better question?
  • While the contestants may be nerds (or geeks, or fans, or whatever), It's a given that fair number of the staff aren't. If you aren't at least a D&D geek (using the definition from that last geeknights episode), how would you know enough to write a better question?
    How does Jeopardy write answers for so many topics without screwing up?
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    You have Monte Cook, or Mike Mearls, or Richard Garfield or something as a celebrity consultant, clearly.
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  • edited February 2013
    While the contestants may be nerds (or geeks, or fans, or whatever), It's a given that fair number of the staff aren't. If you aren't at least a D&D geek (using the definition from that last geeknights episode), how would you know enough to write a better question?
    How does Jeopardy write answers for so many topics without screwing up?
    I thought Jeopardy had a body of trivia nerds and experts to get their questions from. I doubt this show has the resources for that.

    Edit: Also, Jeopardy has been known to screw up from time to time.
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    I'll also point out while I know more about their third question in that particular contest than the question allowed accuracy, I didn't know shit about their Game of Thrones question.
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  • Clearly almost nobody has listened to the episode yet. You all have only commented on the existing Internet discussion, and have not mentioned our unique point of view whatsoever.
    Clearly almost nobody has listened to the episode yet. You all have only commented on the existing Internet discussion, and have not mentioned our unique point of view whatsoever.

    These comments combined with 5 minutes of free time lead to me creating these... I'm so sorry, FRCF...

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  • My problem is simply that the opinions already being brought up on the topic are tired, and many of them here exemplify exactly what we said was wrong.
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    4. The few freaks who listen to show and also go to forums.
    Ooooh! oooh! Me! Me!

    Would this not be a sort of geek vs. nerd situation?

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  • I think the important thing to take away from this conversation is (I think? After a little research) 1974 OD&D did not have critical hits. All weapons dealt 1d6 damage and that was it.
  • Oh, so actual episode stuff: I'm 28 and also still don't have a Primary Care. Kinda want to take care of that, but like many things it's always procrastination.
  • I'm going to run up to Scott at East and request him saying "simultaneously" to match that guy that asked Rym to say "Wizards of the Coast" at Prime.
  • I don't get why the whole "Fake Geek" thing is only becoming a big thing now. I've been seeing it happening since ~2006. Anime Boston has been a den of non-Anime geeks for years. Why did people only just notice?

    I'm also very amused at the number of people who are "fake geeks," but get pissed at "fake geeks"
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    I don't think the non-Anime geeks at Anime Boston are "fake geeks." They're geeks, albeit not necessarily Anime geeks. They also don't really go out of their way to portray themselves as Anime geeks (or any other sort of geek) for that matter outside of whatever their own personal geekeries may be.

    A "fake geek" is someone who tries to appear to be a geek about a particular area without actually being a geek in that area. Going back to Anime Boston, if you see a Homestuck geek running around the con, odds are that yeah, they are an honest-to-goodness Homestuck geek and not "fake."

    I'm going to switch to PAX for a second, just because the large number of commercial booths in their expo hall increases the odds of a particular type of "fake geek" showing up. These are people who pretend to be geeky because they're being paid by whatever company whose booth they're working at. They're only doing so for the money and don't give a rat's ass about what they're trying to sell. Now, there are a couple PAX booth babes who are friends of mine, and I know they're legitimate gamer geeks, so I'm not saying all the booth staff at PAX (or any other con) are fake. I'm not even saying a significant percentage of them or even any of them are fake. I'm just saying that when someone's paying you to act geeky, there is certainly a possibility that you're doing it just cause there's money involved and not because you actually care about the particular geekery.
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  • Also keep in mind that I'm picky about what interests do and don't constitute being a "geek" (e.g., Doctor Who is no longer a geek pastime, but rather just another TV show people like.
  • I never even really counted things like booth babes into my thoughts on the matter. I just figured women have been paid to be at all sorts of events and to no look like they'd rather be somewhere ells. Is that where this is coming from?
  • AmpAmp
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    Also keep in mind that I'm picky about what interests do and don't constitute being a "geek" (e.g., Doctor Who is no longer a geek pastime, but rather just another TV show people like.
    Depends on your Dr Who. As I know people that would tear you a new one for saying that it isn't geeky.

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