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  • No, Scott walking into a technological disaster area would be far more entertaining. Maybe after the first season we can do a spinoff where he builds the ultimate automated homes for the wealthy.
    I can imagine him loudly grumbling while sorting through a rat's nest of cables behind someones home entertainment system.
    Rubin walks in super messy room:

    Scott: (From under a shelf full of wires) Are you kidding me? It's a rat's nest under here.
    Shocked homeowner: it's not that bad.
    Scott: (Emerging with a dead rat in one hand) For reals. Who wired this shit, your twelve year old son?
    Shocked homeowner: Well, he's 12 now but he ran the wires a few years ago.

    Scott looking at his phone: OK, looking at my WiFi analyzer I see about ten networks in range. Which one is yours?
    Homeowner: I think it's the one marked netgear.
    Camera zooms to Scott's phone where 9 networks are named netgear.

  • edited May 2013
    This sounds more like a reality show made to make Scott think he was doing a show about fixing peoples crap tech houses, but actually it's all a setup to gradually drive Scott insane by putting him though progressively worse houses until he finally snaps.

    Either way, I would absolutely watch that.
    Post edited by Victor Frost on
  • Either way, I would absolutely watch that.
  • Either way, I would absolutely watch that.
  • We'd have to find people who have their cables stapled to the walls, and network cables running down the hallway to their office, their wireless is just plugged in with default network name and completely open for anyone to use.

    Get Scott's reactions to all of it.
    I see all that as below Scott's level of notice. Don't think living room, think whole offices or businesses.
  • It would definitely be more than just the living room. I see the whole house being a problem. Ethernet cables that are 15 feet too long reaching from their router down the hallway to the home office, twisted and kinked; maybe they have their PC plugged into the TV, but it's using a VGA to component cable, with an open VGA input on the back of the TV; an endless list of possibilities for things people could be doing wrong.

    That said, you're right, have him go to small businesses as well and see the terrible way things are setup there as well.
  • I think half this forum including myself, Rym, and Scott should all be on this King of the Nerds show fighting it out first. (In the end, Ro wins.)
    YES!
    Well, I'm already pretty far into the King of the Nerds application process for season 2. Made the first cut but a looooong way to go.

  • edited May 2013
    Yeah, but Ro would win. Churba would have the most entertaining exit. Rym and Scott would double-eliminate each other. Luke would make it to the end largely coasting on his personality. Wub would eliminate me in a dancing competition. Lackofcheese and Dromaro would hug it out. Pete would drink. The other eight Scott's would merge into negascott. Andrew would get REALLY SERIOUS.
    Post edited by Anthony Heman on
  • I like how there are people on this forum who think highly of me! :D

    Thanks! Team Ro FOR EVER!
  • I play to win, not make friends :-p
  • edited May 2013
    If you run the coax from the wall straight into the HTPC, you will only get the unencrypted channels. You want to run coax out of the cable box into the capture card.
    I don't know much about this, but are you saying that you can buy some PCTVtuner PCI card and somehow steal cable/satellite programming? The first review in the newegg link was from some guy that said he couldn't get direct tv but then did some magic and was able to get the programming?

    "Got this card to prepare to move to an apartment where I can't get DirecTV because management won't allow dishes to be installed. Having installed an dipole HD antenna I made out of cardboard with aluminum foil elements...hooked this antenna up and was rolling along. Installing NPVR as my software...downloaded the listings for the OTA channels. Getting the lineup going...started doing some recordings as a test. When the channel was not being received with artifacts in the signal...got a perfect recording. The picture is as clear as a bell. "


    Post edited by iruul on
  • If you run the coax from the wall straight into the HTPC, you will only get the unencrypted channels. You want to run coax out of the cable box into the capture card.
    I don't know much about this, but are you saying that you can buy some PCTVtuner PCI card and somehow steal cable/satellite programming? The first review in the newegg link was from some guy that said he couldn't get direct tv but then did some magic and was able to get the programming?

    "Got this card to prepare to move to an apartment where I can't get DirecTV because management won't allow dishes to be installed. Having installed an dipole HD antenna I made out of cardboard with aluminum foil elements...hooked this antenna up and was rolling along. Installing NPVR as my software...downloaded the listings for the OTA channels. Getting the lineup going...started doing some recordings as a test. When the channel was not being received with artifacts in the signal...got a perfect recording. The picture is as clear as a bell. "


    No that guy just got the free over the air channels. And and what Scott was talking about was that often cable will have some channels that work without paying, but they're mostly just shopping, religious, or a few network channels. That's all I've got.

  • I play to win, not make friends :-p
    Doesn't everyone?
  • I play to win at the game of making friends.
  • edited May 2013
    Yeah, but Ro would win. Churba would have the most entertaining exit. Rym and Scott would double-eliminate each other. Luke would make it to the end largely coasting on his personality. Wub would eliminate me in a dancing competition. Lackofcheese and Dromaro would hug it out. Pete would drink. The other eight Scott's would merge into negascott. Andrew would get REALLY SERIOUS.
    And I would MC it.
    I like how there are people on this forum who think highly of me! :D

    Thanks! Team Ro FOR EVER!
    *Pulls down suspended microphone* Aaand it looks like Ro is wasting no time garnering the support of the audience, tossing out those tiny, home knit nyan cat keychains. It seems to be working, though, because some of them have already fashioned crude signs in her support. And who can blame them? Well, we'll just have to see if their confidence in her is well placed when by the time we get through to THE FINAL ROUND!
    Post edited by Victor Frost on
  • Read all of that in Sonic's voice, would gladly watch/get eliminated immediately.
  • I'm not sure what the show is, but I'm not sure I'd be cut out for reality tv type stuff.
  • If you run the coax from the wall straight into the HTPC, you will only get the unencrypted channels. You want to run coax out of the cable box into the capture card.
    I don't know much about this, but are you saying that you can buy some PCTVtuner PCI card and somehow steal cable/satellite programming? The first review in the newegg link was from some guy that said he couldn't get direct tv but then did some magic and was able to get the programming?

    "Got this card to prepare to move to an apartment where I can't get DirecTV because management won't allow dishes to be installed. Having installed an dipole HD antenna I made out of cardboard with aluminum foil elements...hooked this antenna up and was rolling along. Installing NPVR as my software...downloaded the listings for the OTA channels. Getting the lineup going...started doing some recordings as a test. When the channel was not being received with artifacts in the signal...got a perfect recording. The picture is as clear as a bell. "


    No that guy just got the free over the air channels. And and what Scott was talking about was that often cable will have some channels that work without paying, but they're mostly just shopping, religious, or a few network channels. That's all I've got.

    A simple setup with a tuner card for a PC would allow you to get standard cable channels, the same channels that you would get if you paid for cable tv and connected the coax directly into the back of your tv.

    In order to properly get digital cable into your PC, you would need a tuner card that has a slot for a cablecard that you get from your cable tv provider:

    http://cetoncorp.com/products/infinitv-4-pcie/

    This example is actually capable of recording 4 channels at once. That said, in my experience with Cox Cable in Phoenix, getting all the components to communicate properly with two way communication necessary for Switched Digital Video to work is a nightmare. This isn't necessarily because of hardware incompatibility on your end, or on the provider's end, but more a result of incompetence of a whole chain of people who do not understand how to manage settings on the provider's end of the line.
  • What you can do, though is put your cable box between the wall and the capture card. The box does the decoding. The capture card does the recording.
  • That might true, but you're still paying the monthly rental(at least that is the case here in Phoenix). Though if your cable provider uses switched digital video, you would actually have to change channels with the cable box in order to pull down the channels that you want to record.

    If the goal is simply to get video into the computer, using a component video/optical audio capture device after recording everything with the cable box will get equal results at drastically reduced effort.

    But when the goal is to use an HTPC to replace the cable box and legally record everything that you would with a cable box and have access to the recorded video on any other computer in the house, it's not always as simple as just making all the connections and having it "just work".

    If your provider doesn't use switched digital video, then you're lucky, but it's only a matter of time, they've moved to it to save on bandwidth that they have to deliver to each home.
  • I'm not sure what the show is, but I'm not sure I'd be cut out for reality tv type stuff.
    I'm not sure what the show actually is either, but I'm sure you'd do fine.
  • Hello, world of PC gaming.

    I'm...I'm coming home.

    :: cue tearful reunion::
  • edited May 2013
    They are probably using APUs too, so that x86 is probably AMD also.

    I'm assuming the processor will be x86-64 with the RAM.
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • The reason they are all using AMD is obvious. AMD is desperate, so it probably have them all really good deals just to get sales.
  • edited May 2013
    Just because we can't produce tech content on the internet without saying something is dying on a regular basis just like every other "intellectual" commentator on the internet, here's AMD is dying.

    But that aside, Yeah, so? If they make a deal, and manage to cram themselves into every console around, then that's probably a pretty good fucking plan to stop being so desperate - I mean, while it's fun to sit around and pretend we're better than people who use consoles(hey, ego masturbation is healthy and natural, after all), you can't deny that they do sell a metric fuckload of the things. Combine that with AMD's other initiatives in appliance and handheld spaces, their system on a chip work, etc, etc - we might be seeing AMD as a company taking a bit of a turn for the better.
    Post edited by Churba on
  • Actually, and I know I'm going to catch a metric fuck-load of crap for this, but I think maybe consoles are better for gaming than PCs ever were.

    Now, before you start typing, hear me out. When I say "better for gaming" I don't mean performance-wise. In performance, you can easily build a gaming pc more powerful than any console. By "better for gaming" I'm talking about gaming as a cultural entity. Consoles commoditized gaming and made it easily accessible for the masses. Back when you had to fiddle with soundblaster settings and IRQs, you could just plug in a console into your tv and just play.

    You could say that PC games allowed artists to experiment more easily with games as an medium, but consoles have done more to elevate games as a storytelling and artistic medium than PCs ever have simply because they reach a vastly larger audience.

    What do you guys think?
  • AmpAmp
    edited May 2013
    hey, ego masturbation is healthy and natural, after all)
    Stop that you'll go blind!

    I wonder if the PS4 will take Europe into account when it shows off more stuff as the xbox one really seems aimed at america. To the extent where I wonder how much of its content I could access.

    Yeah its a lot more fun to have four friends round a TV than it is to play over the internet. There is something about having people around you and it being more accessible.
    Post edited by Amp on
  • edited May 2013
    I have seen a few more articles on how used games will work on the XB-1 and it looks like the game discs you buy in a store are pretty much useless. All they are is a quick way to avoid downloading the game. MS is going the digital route but they are not ready to push away from the retail market.

    When you trade-in a used game the trade has to go through their system. The game is removed from your account and that license/copy/? is now able to be resold.

    Upon resale both MS and the publisher get a cut of the new activation/license/sale whatever they are going to call it.

    All trades have to go through this system which means you can't trade a game with a friend. Yup, you can not do any cashless swapping of games.

    To me, this means that MS has just killed the used game market. If the disc is just an easy way to get the bits on your XB1 then is a used game really a used game? If the used game retailer has to pay commissions on used games back to the original publisher and MS why even buy/sell used games for the system?
    Post edited by HMTKSteve on
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