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  • Stop trying to take away my rights to look at anime girls in short skirts. #mensrights

    NSA Disclaimer: This is a sarcastic message. Please don't lock me up. Kthx.
    Was that aimed at me?
  • zeo1fan is an idiot, no sane public school system would dress girls in skirts that were moe-length, churba is excellent, business as usual

    more masemune boobies & popcorn, pls
    Please avoid ad hominem. 'Moe-length'? Moe is the fetishization of innocence. Whether or not a skirt can emphasize a certain amount of innocence is up to the viewer.
    Up to the viewer or intentional by the creator?
    In your opinion, what length of skirt emphasizes the most innocence?
    WTF? I literally didn't expect you to seriously defend images of young girls shown from a low viewpoint as "innocent".

    Here's a clue: that you are trying to defend yourself already makes me think you're either creepy, or a troll.
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    Up to the viewer or intentional by the creator?
    Yeah, pretty sure K-on isn't having any truck with the fetishization of innocence, but it's still a show/manga about a band of moeblobs moeblobbing around being very moe.
    Their skirts are short relative to american skirts. My question is: "So what?"
    No, Not relative to American skirts, they're short full stop. Unless you can show me a modern non-american culture where the average skirt has one's privates turned into publics, you're pretty much pissing into the wind on that one.
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  • Did you guys know that it's common to perform female circumcision in the middle east. Moral relativism is a thing. My question is: "So what?"
    Did you know they still perform male circumcision in North America and no one bats an eyelid?
    >bringing up male circumcision on the internet
    >2013
  • I've gotten to the point where I just don't notice and completely ignore fanservice half the time. I'm not sure I want to know what that says about me.
  • edited July 2013
    C'mon guys, it doesn't need to end this way.
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    This is from Gadget Trial, which is moe Advance Wars.
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  • Just straight up laughing at this skirt length discussion.
  • Oh man this thread is amazing. Keep up the good work, guys.
  • I'm not saying anyone in this thread has any kinds of desires towards any anime character. I'm saying I find it weird that the way people describe what kind of character is in a show is by their legal status in relation to sex (or if they would technically class as child pornography).
    Might be in part due to there being characters that are of legal age, age-wise, but look like teenagers or younger.
    Or human anatomy, for that matter.
    You're skipping the part where anime characters have no human anatomy. There's the head, arms, and the body which consists about 90% out of leg. Also, there's no panty shots because there are no panties to begin with.
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    You're skipping the part where anime characters have no human anatomy. There's the head, arms, and the body which consists about 90% out of leg. Also, there's no panty shots because there are no panties to begin with.
    Well, that's my mistake. I didn't mean to imply they were necessarily flashing panties.
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    Too much talk, not enough fan service.
  • edited July 2013
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  • Long, flowing, swishy skirts are superior to short skirts.

    Discussion over.
  • edited July 2013
    I'm quite surprised that no one mentioned the super creepy Madoka intro. You know with the boob squish and Madoka dressed as a dominatrix.

    It's a great show and I love it. Unfortunately, it's marred with small elements like this.
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  • For Madoka, that opening is clearly a deconstructive reference to the tropes of magical girl shows. The opener is the "aesthetic of expectations" for a show like that, while the closer is the "real opener" in that it portrays the very dark "reality" of a story like that.
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    Long, flowing, swishy skirts are superior to short skirts.

    Discussion over.
    Even Full Metal Panic is aware of this fundamental truth.

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  • For Madoka, that opening is clearly a deconstructive reference to the tropes of magical girl shows. The opener is the "aesthetic of expectations" for a show like that, while the closer is the "real opener" in that it portrays the very dark "reality" of a story like that.
    For you. To me, the image Scott posted from Madoka is only trying to deconstruct five young girls' panties.
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    Cyborgs with that Detective Benson donk <3 <3 <3
  • For Madoka, that opening is clearly a deconstructive reference to the tropes of magical girl shows. The opener is the "aesthetic of expectations" for a show like that, while the closer is the "real opener" in that it portrays the very dark "reality" of a story like that.
    For you. To me, the image Scott posted from Madoka is only trying to deconstruct five young girls' panties.
    I am as against the shows deconstructing young girls panties as you are. Madoka is not that show. Chu-Bra is that show.

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  • zeo1fan is an idiot, no sane public school system would dress girls in skirts that were moe-length, churba is excellent, business as usual

    more masemune boobies & popcorn, pls
    Please avoid ad hominem. 'Moe-length'? Moe is the fetishization of innocence. Whether or not a skirt can emphasize a certain amount of innocence is up to the viewer.
    Up to the viewer or intentional by the creator?
    In your opinion, what length of skirt emphasizes the most innocence?
    WTF? I literally didn't expect you to seriously defend images of young girls shown from a low viewpoint as "innocent".

    Here's a clue: that you are trying to defend yourself already makes me think you're either creepy, or a troll.
    I wouldn't really get anything out of girls in short skirts. I'm gay, dude. :^ I was asking if you seriously think there's a way to evoke an innocent aesthetic by skirt length.
  • For Madoka, that opening is clearly a deconstructive reference to the tropes of magical girl shows. The opener is the "aesthetic of expectations" for a show like that, while the closer is the "real opener" in that it portrays the very dark "reality" of a story like that.
    The opening isn't devoid of the reality of the story, though. There are hints to the tragic nature of the story, like Madoka lying in bed depressed, running through the city, and we can't ignore that the song itself is essentially Homura's melancholy ballad to Madoka.
  • Did you guys know that it's common to perform female circumcision in the middle east. Moral relativism is a thing. My question is: "So what?"
    Did you know they still perform male circumcision in North America and no one bats an eyelid?
    >bringing up male circumcision on the internet
    >2013
    I've missed your point.
  • Up to the viewer or intentional by the creator?
    Yeah, pretty sure K-on isn't having any truck with the fetishization of innocence, but it's still a show/manga about a band of moeblobs moeblobbing around being very moe.
    Their skirts are short relative to american skirts. My question is: "So what?"
    No, Not relative to American skirts, they're short full stop. Unless you can show me a modern non-american culture where the average skirt has one's privates turned into publics, you're pretty much pissing into the wind on that one.
    Moe by its very nature is a fetishization of innocence, so K-On would qualify.

    Now you're exaggerating the shortness of their skirts.
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    Moe by its very nature is a fetishization of innocence, so K-On would qualify.

    Now you're exaggerating the shortness of their skirts.
    For the bloke throwing it around so much, you don't actually understand what fetishisation means, do you? I mean, you clearly think you do, so it's more of a rhetorical question, but still, please explain it to us what you think that means.

    And no, I'm not exaggerating the shortness of their skirts. You're just being stupid. Or you're a troll, I wouldn't be surprised, but if you are then you're as amused by me as I am by you, so it's win-win.

    What I am saying exactly - what you're saying that they're short relative to American skirts is meaningless unless you can show me a comparable culture that wouldn't consider them short. And I dare you to say Japan, because outside of weeaboo fantasy japan-that-doesn't-exist, that's not the case.

    Oh yeah, and you can put your responses all in one post. Makes things easier for everyone, including you. After you're done with one, just hit the quote button on the next thing you want to reply to, and go from there. It should appear at the bottom of the text box.

    EDIT - Wait, nonsense arguments, liberal (mis)use of words that sound a little clever, complete misunderstanding of anything anyone else says to the point that it MUST be intentional... You don't have a Tumblr, do you?
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  • Awww, why did you have to post such pictures in the forum, Scott? I'm sitting in an airport and scrolling down to that image makes me look over my own shoulder. I don't want to have to check nobody is looking at my screen.
  • Moe by its very nature is a fetishization of innocence, so K-On would qualify.

    Now you're exaggerating the shortness of their skirts.
    For the bloke throwing it around so much, you don't actually understand what fetishisation means, do you? I mean, you clearly think you do, so it's more of a rhetorical question, but still, please explain it to us what you think that means.

    And no, I'm not exaggerating the shortness of their skirts. You're just being stupid. Or you're a troll, I wouldn't be surprised, but if you are then you're as amused by me as I am by you, so it's win-win.

    What I am saying exactly - what you're saying that they're short relative to American skirts is meaningless unless you can show me a comparable culture that wouldn't consider them short. And I dare you to say Japan, because outside of weeaboo fantasy japan-that-doesn't-exist, that's not the case.

    Oh yeah, and you can put your responses all in one post. Makes things easier for everyone, including you. After you're done with one, just hit the quote button on the next thing you want to reply to, and go from there. It should appear at the bottom of the text box.

    EDIT - Wait, nonsense arguments, liberal (mis)use of words that sound a little clever, complete misunderstanding of anything anyone else says to the point that it MUST be intentional... You don't have a Tumblr, do you?
    Merriam Webster defines a 'fetish' as:

    a : an object (as a small stone carving of an animal) believed to have magical power to protect or aid its owner; broadly : a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence
    b : an object of irrational reverence or obsessive devotion : prepossession
    c : an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression

    and Anime News Network defines 'Moe' as:

    "A Japanese term used in connection with manga or anime to describe something precious, usually (but not always) the ideal of youthful and innocent femininity. Written with the kanji for "to bud or sprout" (萌), the concept covers a range of ideal behaviour for youthful female characters in manga or anime. To be moe, a character can be eager or perky, not overly independent, and call forth a desire in the viewer to protect them and nurture them. The term is also used to describe any preciously cute item; there is an animal mascot character store in Tokyo called Moe."

    So I'd say it's definitely fair to call it a 'fetish', particularly when its most lucrative use for the industry has been to arouse interest in Hentai games such as 'Air', 'Clannad', etc.

    No one's being very clear about the point they're trying to make regarding the skirts in Madoka, so I'm just going to drop it.
  • To be clear: skirts that short on young girls in entertainment aimed at people who like titillation weirds me out. People who defend the look or say they don't understand why people misunderstand their enjoyment confuse me.
  • To be clear: skirts that short on young girls in entertainment aimed at people who like titillation weirds me out. People who defend the look or say they don't understand why people misunderstand their enjoyment confuse me.
    If I had to personally defend the look, It'd be because I find their uniforms to be distinctive. My vested interest in their uniforms ends there. I'm sorry if the skirt length makes you uncomfortable, but it's a fairly incidental factor. Gen Urobuchi wrote a great tragedy and a great exploration of the Magical Girl genre and that's pretty much all that matters to me. I don't mind a couple of cosmetically otaku concepts here and there as long as Gen Urobuchi treats the characters respectfully and autonomously.
  • I actually don't care at all about skirt length, it's the camera positioning designed to capture the panties that bothers me :-p
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