Anniversary update working fine across 6 computers I could walk to from here.
Anyway on another note, I met a person who very strangely is super annoyed by updates to the point that he refuses to install Windows 10, but on top of that keeps rolling his computer back to Windows 8.0. I tried explaining the virtues of Windows 10 but he was not open to having a balanced discussion.
His many gripe was Unity not working. (This issue was solved on the Unity forums last year, I found on my initial Google search).
I then recommended installing Linux and he doesn't want to do Linux because there are updates every few days even on slow release Debian builds. Super strange and closed minded individual. More of a WTF anecdote but remembered it when I started typing here.
I was reluctant to go to 10, but I was very happy with the way Windows 7 was behaving. Some of the "features" in 10 were a huge turn off (blinky, noisy, ad-filled metro window, and very invasive privacy agreement) but find I was able to disable, remove, or otherwise interfere with the invasive or otherwise unwanted bits. I can see reluctance to go to 10..... But not from 8.
I have Windows 7 on my PC still and Windows 10 on my laptop.
My main issue with Windows 10 is the interface.
Settings vs Control Panel Apps vs Programs Windows 95 start menu vs Windows 7 start menu
It's jarring. Have one consistent interface instead of a mishmash of 2.
That aside, the real issue, is the latest update has broken itself. I'm having trouble booting to safe mode with an SSD. Not going to touch it till there's an official fix.
I have Windows 7 on my PC still and Windows 10 on my laptop.
My main issue with Windows 10 is the interface.
Settings vs Control Panel Apps vs Programs Windows 95 start menu vs Windows 7 start menu
It's jarring. Have one consistent interface instead of a mishmash of 2.
That aside, the real issue, is the latest update has broken itself. I'm having trouble booting to safe mode with an SSD. Not going to touch it till there's an official fix.
You can still use the Control Panel for most things in Windows 10 and you can find it in The Start Menu:
You've got a good point too, you shouldn't be splitting the os settings into arbitrarily defined places because one is better for a touch screen interface. If they abolished the control panel and put all of it's functionality into settings > advanced view or something like that, I imagine you'd have no gripe. They just have to be consistent across all interfaces, not arbitrary.
Some of the "features" in 10 were a huge turn off (blinky, noisy, ad-filled metro window, and very invasive privacy agreement) but find I was able to disable, remove, or otherwise interfere with the invasive or otherwise unwanted bits. I can see reluctance to go to 10..... But not from 8.
8 was a very, very stupid OS.
I don't think you've used Windows 10 from your description, there are no blinky, noisy, ad-filled metro windows. The privacy agreement is equivalent to what you get on iOS, Android and MacOS however it is completely upfront.
Windows 8 was not that different an OS, Microsoft was moving towards the touch market too fast for consumers. Windows 8's tile UI has been done before in the Linux Gnome 3 GUI. They work very well if you have a touch screen or are comfortable typing all your command from the keyboard rather than using your mouse for everything.
The primary issue I had with the individual I met was that he wasn't even keeping Windows 8 up to date, so that would be like keeping Windows 7 in a pre SP1 state with none of the security updates going or Linux distribution that is never updated or whatever cat version of MacOS was present in the early 2000s.
When I first installed 10, the metro window was an annoying mess. Lot of ads for "apps", animated blinky icons, etc. This was a clean install. I fixed it by nuking every program in the window, uninstalling some bloat, and turning off metro.
Then I went to try out Cortana, and it wanted way to much access to everything, plus had loads of stipulations in the EULA that lets you be it's advertising bitch if they choose to.
I don't want companies to "better advertise" to me on my computer, I want them to not advertise. The amount of information that they had shared by default was jarring and I had to flip a bunch of software switched off
I have dual monitors running on my GeForce 770. The ultrasharp plugged into display port goes to sleep right after powering on the machine, and isn't detected by windows.
It works if connected via HDMI, so I don't think it's the monitor.
If it's the only monitor connected during boot, I see the windows logo screen for a couple seconds before it goes to sleep, so I don't think it's the cable.
This started after I installed the anniversary update. I've updated drivers, reinstalled drivers, rolled back the anniversary update, nothing works. Any ideas? Hopefully the card isn't busted but that's awfully coincidental timing if so.
I have dual monitors running on my GeForce 770. The ultrasharp plugged into display port goes to sleep right after powering on the machine, and isn't detected by windows.
It works if connected via HDMI, so I don't think it's the monitor.
If it's the only monitor connected during boot, I see the windows logo screen for a couple seconds before it goes to sleep, so I don't think it's the cable.
This started after I installed the anniversary update. I've updated drivers, reinstalled drivers, rolled back the anniversary update, nothing works. Any ideas? Hopefully the card isn't busted but that's awfully coincidental timing if so.
You have to use the process of elimination. Try the monitor on another computer. Try a different cable. Try a different monitor with the same computer.
> Try the monitor on another computer. Works, but I only have the one displayport hole, so tested via HDMI.
> Try a different cable. Works, but again, HDMI.
> Try a different monitor with the same computer. Works, HDMI and DVI.
I'm pretty sure everything is capable of working correctly, I get signal for 2-3 seconds on boot. Also, it would seem to be extremely coincidental timing if hardware broke immediately after a major windows update.
> Try the monitor on another computer. Works, but I only have the one displayport hole, so tested via HDMI.
> Try a different cable. Works, but again, HDMI.
> Try a different monitor with the same computer. Works, HDMI and DVI.
I'm pretty sure everything is capable of working correctly, I get signal for 2-3 seconds on boot. Also, it would seem to be extremely coincidental timing if hardware broke immediately after a major windows update.
Seems like you don't have the equipment to test the DisplayPort with another PC or anything. So how about this. Try booting Linux off of a USB stick. If it works, you know you have a software problem.
1. The problem is beyond the available possible eliminations (e.g., you don't have a spare CPU) 2. The problem is conflated within a part you can't subdivide. (e.g., the keyboard controller is itself bad) 3. The problem is caused by an external and unknown force (e.g., it's a stray current coming in the ground wire, but only when the microwave is running) 4. Ghosts
1. The problem is beyond the available possible eliminations (e.g., you don't have a spare CPU) 2. The problem is conflated within a part you can't subdivide. (e.g., the keyboard controller is itself bad) 3. The problem is caused by an external and unknown force (e.g., it's a stray current coming in the ground wire, but only when the microwave is running) 4. Ghosts
Mine too, but it's not like the cable was moving. And it was repeatable - I probably restarted and watched the windows logo for a couple seconds 5 or 6 times. Would that be consistent with a bad connection?
I once crimped an Ethernet cable in the most amazingly wrong way ever. It would show a link light, but you couldn't actually send data. A dead cable with a good link light.
My life is basically chasing down intermittent or hard to diagnose faults on aircraft electronics that specifically can't be chased down with process of elimination. Sometimes because of technical complexity, sometimes environmental factors (it only shorts out when the board physically flexes because the pilot is pulling a several-g turn!), or the nature of secure environment means anything pulled out for a process of elimination-type repair has to then be retested and re-qualified, at great labor expense.
My life is basically chasing down intermittent or hard to diagnose faults on aircraft electronics that specifically can't be chased down with process of elimination. Sometimes because of technical complexity, sometimes environmental factors (it only shorts out when the board physically flexes because the pilot is pulling a several-g turn!), or the nature of secure environment means anything pulled out for a process of elimination-type repair has to then be retested and re-qualified, at great labor expense.
Unlike a consumer, though, you have the luxury of zooming in much more. Checking individual chips, capacitors, traces on boards, etc. A modern PC motherboard is effectively a black box despite being completely exposed.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4vufpo/windows_10_fully_freezes_after_anniversary_update/
Anyway on another note, I met a person who very strangely is super annoyed by updates to the point that he refuses to install Windows 10, but on top of that keeps rolling his computer back to Windows 8.0. I tried explaining the virtues of Windows 10 but he was not open to having a balanced discussion.
His many gripe was Unity not working. (This issue was solved on the Unity forums last year, I found on my initial Google search).
I then recommended installing Linux and he doesn't want to do Linux because there are updates every few days even on slow release Debian builds. Super strange and closed minded individual. More of a WTF anecdote but remembered it when I started typing here.
8 was a very, very stupid OS.
My main issue with Windows 10 is the interface.
Settings vs Control Panel
Apps vs Programs
Windows 95 start menu vs Windows 7 start menu
It's jarring. Have one consistent interface instead of a mishmash of 2.
That aside, the real issue, is the latest update has broken itself. I'm having trouble booting to safe mode with an SSD. Not going to touch it till there's an official fix.
You can still use the Control Panel for most things in Windows 10 and you can find it in The Start Menu:
The privacy agreement is equivalent to what you get on iOS, Android and MacOS however it is completely upfront.
Windows 8 was not that different an OS, Microsoft was moving towards the touch market too fast for consumers. Windows 8's tile UI has been done before in the Linux Gnome 3 GUI. They work very well if you have a touch screen or are comfortable typing all your command from the keyboard rather than using your mouse for everything.
The primary issue I had with the individual I met was that he wasn't even keeping Windows 8 up to date, so that would be like keeping Windows 7 in a pre SP1 state with none of the security updates going or Linux distribution that is never updated or whatever cat version of MacOS was present in the early 2000s.
Then I went to try out Cortana, and it wanted way to much access to everything, plus had loads of stipulations in the EULA that lets you be it's advertising bitch if they choose to.
I don't want companies to "better advertise" to me on my computer, I want them to not advertise. The amount of information that they had shared by default was jarring and I had to flip a bunch of software switched off
Other than that, works great.
I can't do a repair install, because the OS freezes.
Safe mode doesn't allow me to even see what updates have been install, because Windows Update doesn't function.
It looks like I will have to do a fresh install. ffs
It works if connected via HDMI, so I don't think it's the monitor.
If it's the only monitor connected during boot, I see the windows logo screen for a couple seconds before it goes to sleep, so I don't think it's the cable.
This started after I installed the anniversary update. I've updated drivers, reinstalled drivers, rolled back the anniversary update, nothing works. Any ideas? Hopefully the card isn't busted but that's awfully coincidental timing if so.
Works, but I only have the one displayport hole, so tested via HDMI.
> Try a different cable.
Works, but again, HDMI.
> Try a different monitor with the same computer.
Works, HDMI and DVI.
I'm pretty sure everything is capable of working correctly, I get signal for 2-3 seconds on boot. Also, it would seem to be extremely coincidental timing if hardware broke immediately after a major windows update.
It was the DisplayPort cable.
What the hell.
1. The problem is beyond the available possible eliminations (e.g., you don't have a spare CPU)
2. The problem is conflated within a part you can't subdivide. (e.g., the keyboard controller is itself bad)
3. The problem is caused by an external and unknown force (e.g., it's a stray current coming in the ground wire, but only when the microwave is running)
4. Ghosts