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  • Fuck Oculus until he steps down or is ousted.
  • Can I ask why you had a lot of respect for him initially? I mean, more or less than anyone else in his position?
  • I dunno, there's always been a lot of weird stuff around Luckey. The original thing was people started to get butthurt when Oculus went over to Facebook, but honestly, I think that was a decent move. People liked to think about Oculus as this grassroots approach to revolutionizing the future of games but if you're going to make it really work, you need money, and lots of it.

    I think he also came across as very personable to people and especially his independent efforts to try and reach out to backers and consumers on a more personal level was viewed as admirable.

    This is just my take on it I suppose, I really had no opinion of him one way or another. But that's sort of what I've gleaned from others' opinions on podcasts and forums.
  • My question was really to VentureJ, who said:
    VentureJ said:

    ...it's a double-whammy of huge disappointment from a guy I originally had a bit of respect for.

    I don't know enough about Palmer Luckey to know what he had done previously to deserve extra respect than other people with the same job.
  • edited September 2016
    Well, I wouldn't say that I respected him a lot, though I did give him the baseline amount of respect a person who founded Oculus VR would deserve. He seemed like an positive advocate for VR tech (with a decently high-profile), which I thought was neat.

    Unfortunately, his GamerGate/Alt-Right/Trump involvement has pretty much tanked that for me.
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  • edited September 2016
    Oh, and the story just gets better - Palmer has released a statement that he didn't write those posts, that the press has misreported his views, and that he only gave 10K to the neonazi Dark money PR group, and wasn't a founder.

    In response, the authors of the piece over at Daily Beast have released some of the documentary evidence they have of him not only stating but clarifying that he absolutely did write those posts, and also pointing out that they reported him being listed as Vice President, not anything about him being a founder.
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  • edited September 2016
    Churba said:

    Oh, and the story just gets better - Palmer has released a statement that he didn't write those posts, that the press has misreported his views, and that he only gave 10K to the neonazi Dark money PR group, and wasn't a founder.

    In response, the authors of the piece over at Daily Beast have released some of the documentary evidence they have of him not only stating but clarifying that he absolutely did write those posts, and also pointing out that they reported him being listed as Vice President, not anything about him being a founder.

    Oh and while claiming he doesn't support trump, he apparently forgot that there's video of him being willingly interviewed as a trump supporter, after exiting a trump rally, wearing a "Can't stump the Trump" t-shirt.

    At 1:52 -
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  • That list Luke mentioned is where I'm at too. It blows my mind that the concept millennial has any meaning to anyone when it encompasses people who only connect with Obama or Diana.
  • Well, it is basically a dead heat now and I can't understand why. How can anybody with a functioning brain vote for Trump? Hopefully the debate will turn things around.
  • I kind of agree with Dr. Lessig (does he have a Ph.D.? I'm to lazy to check) in his latest speech, I think in Daton, the bar for Trump this debate is really really low. All he has to do is not act like himself for the duration of the debate and pretend to be a sane person for a few hours. Doing so would... well get a bunch of assholes who are both on the fence (somehow) and basically decide this election to go Trump.
  • But can he? The primary debates certainly didn't show it. Trump only has one setting.
  • The problem is that we need to stop treating the two candidates as if they are equal. Hillary is extremely qualified and will do a good job, Trump on the other hand is a racist fear mongerer.
  • edited September 2016
    I know that Pichu, everyone here does. That doesn't change the fact, that at least in this guy's opinion and understanding of the country, the election isn't decided by the votes of those who post in this forum, it's decided by idiots who are actually on the fence and actually see them as equals.

    Following from that line, I agree with Dr. Lessig. See above.
    Post edited by Naoza on
  • If you mean Lawrence Lessig, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a Ph.D, only a Masters. Well, not only, but it's his highest degree.
  • edited September 2016
    Alright I guess he'd be Mr. Lessig, esquire. Or just Lawrence Lessig
    Post edited by Naoza on
  • Naoza said:

    I know that Pichu, everyone here does. That doesn't change the fact, that at least in this guy's opinion and understanding of the country, the election isn't decided by the votes of those who post in this forum, it's decided by idiots who are actually on the fence and actually see them as equals.

    Following from that line, I agree with Dr. Lessig. See above.

    I understand that, should have been more specific. I think the reason that there are so many people who see them as equals is that the media in it's efforts to appear bipartisan have made them look equal thus creating the misconception.
  • How to Watch the Debate
    I think I'll tune into the bloomberg stream.
  • Pretty sure I'm not going to watch the debate. It'll just make my blood boil and feed into the system of institutionalized entertainment of politics rather than any real substantive discussion.
  • I'm not against watching the debates but I'm certain I can do something better with my time.
  • Like play overwatch AND watch debates?
  • If I get a panic attack and spend the night crying to myself I will be in better standing than if I had watched the debate in any form whatsoever.
  • Debate starts soon. GLHF
  • 200 Admirals and Generals.
  • Somebody call Sean Hannity.
  • Somebody call Sean Hannity.

    Please for the love of god call. I'm begging please.
  • Watching the debate. How is this election even remotely close? Clinton looks presidential, provides good policy proposals and has a competent answer for everything. Trump is a disruptive child, provides no policy information and offers nothing but bluster when he doesn't straight up lie.
  • chaosof99 said:

    Watching the debate. How is this election even remotely close? Clinton looks presidential, provides good policy proposals and has a competent answer for everything. Trump is a disruptive child, provides no policy information and offers nothing but bluster when he doesn't straight up lie.

    People want the president to have a penis.
  • chaosof99 said:

    Watching the debate. How is this election even remotely close? Clinton looks presidential, provides good policy proposals and has a competent answer for everything. Trump is a disruptive child, provides no policy information and offers nothing but bluster when he doesn't straight up lie.

    People want the president to have a penis.
    People also have unresolved Mother/Wife issues.
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