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  • edited October 2008
    My newspaper just endorsed McCain on Sunday. The owner has a 100 percent monopoly on the presidential endorsement. I am filled with shame and self-loathing after seeing it in print. The general editor wrote a lengthy column explaining that the views of the paper don't necessarily reflect the views of the... well, the paper.

    There is no one -- not a single person -- in the entire news division that supports McCain. Not one. There is a sports writer who is conflicted and wants to stick to Republican ideals. That's as close as it comes. Plus, he doesn't count because he's just a fucking sports writer.
    Post edited by Jason on
  • What an awesome idea, electrifying your political sign!


    Campaign Shocker: Electric Fence Rigged On Sign
    A Chapel Hill electrical engineer who was tired of people stealing his campaign signs hooked up his electric fence to a sign and set up a video camera. His video shows a nine year old boy being shocked who was trying to grab his sign.
  • Go McCain, you can do it.
  • Go McCain, you can do it.
    lol, even Karl Rove says McCain is going to lose this:

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  • edited November 2008
    I can read polls too, but I hold out hope that the Obama wave can be stopped.
    Post edited by George Patches on
  • Go McCain, you can do it.
    While he may be able to do it, I don't think he deserves it. His ground game is complete crap and I have yet to meet someone who is voting for McCain (in person) that isn't doing so because of racism.
  • His ground game is complete crap and I have yet to meet someone who is voting for McCain (in person) that isn't doing so because of racism.
    I met one person who is doing it out of religious bigotry instead. ^_~
  • Go McCain, you can do it.
    While he may be able to do it, I don't think he deserves it. His ground game is complete crap and I have yet to meet someone who is voting for McCain (in person) that isn't doing so because of racism.
    He's a Republican without money, I think he's doing pretty damn well all things considered.
  • He's a Republican without money, I think he's doing pretty damn well all things considered.
    Lolwut?
  • Go McCain, you can do it.
    While he may be able to do it, I don't think he deserves it. His ground game is complete crap and I have yet to meet someone who is voting for McCain (in person) that isn't doing so because of racism.
    He's a Republican without money, I think he's doing pretty damn well all things considered.
    You missed a spot.
  • edited November 2008
    There is a surprisingly large amount of racist people in my dorm. It's kind of scary, really. All of them are adamant on the idea of Obama being assassinated when he wins the election. There are actually two people in my floor who I could imagine actually trying to do it.
    Post edited by Li_Akahi on
  • There is a surprisingly large amount of racist people in my dorm. It's kind of scary, really. All of them are adamant on the idea of Obama being assassinated when he wins the election. There are actually two people in my floor who I could imagine actually trying to do it.
    When you see something, say something.
  • There is a surprisingly large amount of racist people in my dorm. It's kind of scary, really. All of them are adamant on the idea of Obama being assassinated when he wins the election. There are actually two people in my floor who I could imagine actually trying to do it.
    When you see something, say something.
    Or at least encourage them to write about it online, using a campus e-mail account. :P I honestly can imagine the scenario, but would hope that the Secret Service would be on the ball with this. I think this is why we heard about those two crazy skinheads...as a deterrent.

    I'm honestly all for the revamped "Popemobile" (with bulletproof glass). Hopemobile?
  • There is a surprisingly large amount of racist people in my dorm. It's kind of scary, really. All of them are adamant on the idea of Obama being assassinated when he wins the election. There are actually two people in my floor who I could imagine actually trying to do it.
    When you see something, say something.
    This is something I’m actually worried about for Obama. Will the Secret Service have to work overtime for Obama or am I overestimating the racist people in the U.S?
  • edited November 2008
    This is something I’m actually worried about for Obama. Will the Secret Service have to work overtime for Obama or am I overestimating the racist people in the U.S?
    I think you are underestimating the secret service. They already provide the best possible personal protection. You can't really do any better without interfering with the president's ability to do his job.

    The only reason the pope has a popemobile is so people can see him. Notice how presidents don't really do parades since JFK. They drive in black bulletproof limousines and SUVs on closed roads. Every overpass on those roads is also closed. It's much safer when assassins don't even know which car you are in.

    I don't think people realize a lot of the suckiness that goes along with being president. The Secret Service is on your ass 24/7 for 4-8 years, and then a little bit on your ass for the rest of your life afterwards. After Ronald Reagan left office, he went to a grocery store and was dumbfounded by the barcode scanners which did not exist prior when he entered office. Nixon once snuck out of the White House to deal with some protesters at the Lincoln Memorial, and ever since the Secret Service has stepped up their game. No president since has been able to go anywhere not on the schedule. You can't even open the window and wave if they don't allow it. The safety of the president comes before the freedom of the president.

    It's next to impossible to assassinate the president of the US. It's not something people need to worry about. If Obama does win, and there are many attempts on his life, I actually see a bright side to it. Crazies who formerly would stay home are now making themselves known so we can put them away. It's a self-fixing problem of crazies getting rid of themselves by being crazy.
    Post edited by Apreche on
  • Will the Secret Service have to work overtime for Obama or am I overestimating the racist people in the U.S?
    He already had a secret service detail earlier in the primaries than any candidate, ever. It's definitely a concern.

    I never really quite understood when people talked about how huge it was when FDR was assassinated. You know, everyone remembers where they were when they heard and all that. But now, thinking about it happening to Obama, I know I'd be devastated.
  • I never really quite understood when people talked about how huge it was when FDR was assassinated.
    FDR wasn't assassinated. They missed and killed the Mayor of Chicago. I personally think he was really just trying to assassinate the mayor, and FDR happened to be there.
  • I never really quite understood when people talked about how huge it was when FDR was assassinated. You know, everyone remembers where they were when they heard and all that.
    Do you mean JFK?
  • I never really quite understood when people talked about how huge it was when FDR was assassinated. You know, everyone remembers where they were when they heard and all that.
    Do you mean JFK?
    He must.
    You missed a spot.
    No, I just chose not to acknowledge it. Plus I think there are a lot more moderate Republicans like myself that disagree with liberal principles voting for McCain than there are racists.
  • No, I just chose not to acknowledge it. Plus I think there are a lot more moderate Republicans like myself that disagree with liberal principles voting for McCain than there are racists.
    Yes, but as I said before, the Republican party isn't the same as it used to be. Saying that you're voting for McCain because you support true conservative ideas is no different than someone saying they are voting for Obama because they want more war in Iraq.

    The party no longer represents those ideas, but people can't shake the psychological association of those ideas with the brand of the party. If real conservatives like yourself actually paid attention none of them would vote for McCain. If you haven't noticed, the ones that are paying attention aren't voting for him.

    Even people like Francis Fukuyama, who I met once at RIT, are voting for Obama. It's crazy time. Many people, democrats especially, use the term neo-conservative to label all the people in government they don't like, but they do not understand the true meaning of the term. Francis Fukuyama is a neo-conservative in the truest sense of the word, having a direct hand in the Project for the New American Century. It doesn't get more conservative than that guy. Yet, he said this.
    I’m voting for Barack Obama this November for a very simple reason. It is hard to imagine a more disastrous presidency than that of George W. Bush. It was bad enough that he launched an unnecessary war and undermined the standing of the United States throughout the world in his first term. But in the waning days of his administration, he is presiding over a collapse of the American financial system and broader economy that will have consequences for years to come. As a general rule, democracies don’t work well if voters do not hold political parties accountable for failure. While John McCain is trying desperately to pretend that he never had anything to do with the Republican Party, I think it would a travesty to reward the Republicans for failure on such a grand scale.
    Many people, like yourself, are still voting Republican because it was once the party of Nixon and Eisenhower. Now it is the party of religious nuts and racists. Your conservative ideas are perfectly reasonable from where I stand. Your support of a party that will act contrary to those ideas is what makes no sense.
  • edited November 2008
    I hear everything you're saying and agree with a lot of it. I simply can't bring myself to support a Democrat. There's a bit of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" going on with me and I think a lot of people like myself. For me it's McCain or no vote, and a no vote in this election is the same as voting for Obama.

    Oh, and thanks for that link the other day to that article.
    Post edited by George Patches on
  • >:0 You greedy lamer.
  • I hear everything you're saying and agree with a lot of it. I simply can't bring myself to support a Democrat. There's a bit of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" going on with me and I think a lot of people like myself. For me it's McCain or no vote, and a no vote in this election is the same as voting for Obama.

    Oh, and thanks for that link the other day to that article.
    Great, another "If I can't have what I want, you can't have what you want"-voter.
  • simply can't bring myself to support a Democrat. There's a bit of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" going on with me and I think a lot of people like myself. For me it's McCain or no vote, and a no vote in this election is the same as voting for Obama.
    You've clearly demonstrated that when it comes to the actual issues, you disagree both with McCain and Obama pretty much equally. Yet, you say that it's either a vote for McCain or no vote. That signifies that you would prefer if McCain won, even though if you do the math it is equally bad for your ideology as an Obama victory. Is this preference solely based on brand loyalty? If so, why can't you shake it in the face of evidence and reality? If it isn't solely based on that, what are the other factors?
  • edited November 2008
    simply can't bring myself to support a Democrat. There's a bit of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" going on with me and I think a lot of people like myself. For me it's McCain or no vote, and a no vote in this election is the same as voting for Obama.
    You've clearly demonstrated that when it comes to the actual issues, you disagree both with McCain and Obama pretty much equally. Yet, you say that it's either a vote for McCain or no vote. That signifies that you would prefer if McCain won, even though if you do the math it is equally bad for your ideology as an Obama victory. Is this preference solely based on brand loyalty? If so, why can't you shake it in the face of evidence and reality? If it isn't solely based on that, what are the other factors?
    Yes, I've said it a couple times now, the taxation principles are more important to me than the social issues. Thus this swings me in favor on McCain. I'm not going to hate Obama, I can live with him.
    I hear everything you're saying and agree with a lot of it. I simply can't bring myself to support a Democrat. There's a bit of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" going on with me and I think a lot of people like myself. For me it's McCain or no vote, and a no vote in this election is the same as voting for Obama.

    Oh, and thanks for that link the other day to that article.
    Great, another "If I can't have what I want, you can't have what you want"-voter.
    It's a two party system, that's how it works.
    Post edited by George Patches on
  • Neither my brother nor I are citizens of the United States,yet. But he told me that he will do something drastic if either McCain or Obama wins. If Obama wins he will get himself a Mac Book Pro and if McCain wins he will be moving to Canada by January of next year. I think I will follow him on the latter.
  • if McCain wins he will be moving to Canada by January of next year.
    Will he still get a Mac Book Pro in the event of the worst?
  • if McCain wins he will be moving to Canada by January of next year.
    Will he still get a Mac Book Pro in the event of the worst?
    No, he will have to save the money for Canada.
  • Neither my brother nor I are citizens of the United States,yet. But he told me that he will do something drastic if either McCain or Obama wins. If Obama wins he will get himself a Mac Book Pro and if McCain wins he will be moving to Canada by January of next year. I think I will follow him on the latter.
    I heard the same thing 4 years ago, and I don't fucking care.
  • Neither my brother nor I are citizens of the United States,yet. But he told me that he will do something drastic if either McCain or Obama wins. If Obama wins he will get himself a Mac Book Pro and if McCain wins he will be moving to Canada by January of next year. I think I will follow him on the latter.
    I heard the same thing 4 years ago, and I don't fucking care.
    Then, why are you writing back?
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