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  • Special comment from my dad after the E-mail:

    Over the past 12 months, we have witnessed an unprecedented assault on our personal liberties. This assault has not come from some foreign power, but from our own tyrannical government.

    On Tuesday, January 19, a special election will be held in the state of Massachusetts to choose a new US Senator to replace Ted Kennedy. The results of this election could well decide our nation's future.

    Until now, Democrats have had filibuster-proof majorities in both the House and Senate, thus allowing them to ram through their socialist agenda, in spite of what the American people want. But the election of Scott Brown in Massachusetts could give Republicans the critical 41st vote needed to stop the Democratic supermajority in the Senate.

    Brown opposes the government takeover of our health care system. He opposes giving terrorists constitutional rights and cap-and-trade legislation. Brown's election would not only derail the terrible health 'reform' bill, but much of the rest of Obama's agenda.

    Up until this week, Brown's election was not even considered to be a remote possibility. The seat has been in Democrat hands for nearly 60 years. But recent polls show that Brown has closed the gap and appears to now be in a statistical tie with his opponent.

    I urge you to watch an inspiring 90-second video and then decide what you can do to make a difference in this critical election:


    Please forward this message to others you know that are concerned about our nation's future. Thank you.


    Me: Just courious, what freedoms have we lost in the last year?

    Father: Government controlled banks, car dealers, and now Medical.. I will have no say in it at all... I lost my freedom to chose what I want to do.. You will see if we do not make a stand... And I will... What ever the gov. runs falls apart, even down to the Mustang Ranch... You will learn, but I am afraid your kids will be the ones that will have to pay for all this.. Someone will, and Your guardian Angle Oboma will be long gone.. You think the history books will not be kind to Bush.. Wait till they write about this guy...

    Me: Ummmm, last I checked you are keeping your Medical, the car dealers are still privately owned (your talking about GM and Chrsyler who are not owned by the government but where bailed out and should pay back the loan {at least in GM's case}) and the banks are steady attempting to pay back the TARP. But in all of those cases, your freedom was not lost. You voted and lost. You'll get a chance to vote in the election next time. Your just upset that you lost. McCain would have done the same things in terms of attempting to bail out the banks and car dealers...

    Father: I would hope not .. And yes next time will be a land slide for who ever runs against this used car sales man.. Most if they voted for him are sorry.. .. Look at how happy people are now when you talk to them.. Your the only one that is happy with this president, no matter what he does... Bush can.t be blamed for everything.. You seem to be the only one that blindly follows him.(Oh maybe Bob). Sad.....You will see in time what you supported..

    Me: let's examine your statements by line just so you see what your saying.

    "I would hope not .. And yes next time will be a land slide for who ever runs against this used car sales man.. "

    Well I would assume that 2010 will be a hard year for the democrats anyhow, it's rare for a party to gain seats when they have so many anyhow, however the amount of republicans resigning will cause a lot of seats to be contested so it should be interested.

    "Most if they voted for him are sorry.."
    Name someone who voted for Obama who would now have voted for McCain, we are not always going to agree with our elected leaders on every topic, we are all different, you don't toe the republican line and I don't toe the democratic one.

    ".. Look at how happy people are now when you talk to them.."
    People are not happy because of the way the healthcare debate went, but you know what they will get a bill which was a lot better then what happened in the 90's.

    "Your the only one that is happy with this president, no matter what he does..."
    Yea, I don't think you actually listen to me when we talk, I can tell you many area's I disagree with the president. HOWEVER, you still voted for Bush even though you disagreed a good deal of his polcies. I vote for the person I feel will best serve this country in the time they run. I still believe Obama is doing a better job then any of the other people who were running at the time and I don't regret my vote. I think he is making a mistake with the healthcare bill and should have fought harder for the public option and to not have to compromise the bill so much to get those democratic senators who have been paided off by the insurance companies, but that's because the republicans are not even willing to sit at the table. Maybe if you read more then these E-mails you would understand what is going on.

    "Bush can.t be blamed for everything.."
    I haven't seen bush blamed at all in this conversation, I think your projecting the fact that you voted for that loser, twice.

    "You seem to be the only one that blindly follows him.(Oh maybe Bob). "
    I don't blindly follow anyone, I would have voted for McCain in 2000, and if he would have not COMPLETELY compromised himself in 2008 to get into the general election, maybe I would have thougth about supporting him.

    "Sad.....You will see in time what you supported.. "

    We will see.
  • According to
    the Trustees for the Social Security Administration,

    " THERE WILL NOT BE A COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS IN SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS.
    ADDITIONALLY THEY WILL RAISE YOUR CO-PAY FOR YOUR RX MEDICARE BENEFITS " !

    They, the Congress (BOTH "REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS TOGETHER") say no increase is warranted because of the losses in gross national product and other cute things..

    NOW SPORTS FANS
    THIS IS THE ONE THAT WILL FLIP YOU OUT!!

    THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION IS FUNDING TWENTY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS-- LET ME REPEAT THAT AMOUNT...
    SO YOU UNDERSTAND IT $ 24,000,000.00 DOLLARS FOR NEW ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS PROCESSING FOR OUR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS !!

    THEY ARE OBTAINING THESE FUNDS
    and
    I QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY WEBSITE...

    "THIS MONEY WILL BE COMING FROM THE SAVINGS TO BE GENERATED
    FROM WITHHOLDING "COST OF LIVING INCREASES FOR 2010 & 2011
    in SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS FOR THE ELDERLY
    AND A $2.00 INCREASE ON ALL MEDICARE RX BENEFIT CO-PAY"


    Please pass this to ALL your friends and have them
    "PROTEST TO THE IDIOTS WE ELECTED TO CONGRESS"
    who by the way, have just voted themselves ANOTHER 3% SALARY INCREASE!!!

    We must put a stop to this outright thievery!
    It is THE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE, BOTH REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS, WE CAN'T FIRE THEM, BUT WE SURE CAN NOT RE-ELECT THEM,
    and WE CAN IMPEACH THEM
    or DEMAND RECALL ELECTIONS !!!
    HOW ABOUT WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND DUMP THESE CLOWNS.

    Just watch.
    They will spend this money and find the software doesn't work,
    dump the whole thing and go back to the old steam driven system
    just like they did with air traffic control several years ago.
    Don't worry though, they've got health care all worked out.
    So here is what we CAN do....

    All I ask is that you consider the suggestion here.

    The entire Congress of the United States is corrupt.
    And I mean both Houses and I mean both major parties.
    I realize that a few Members of each House are trustworthy,
    but,
    as a group they are absolutely the most corrupt bunch
    to ever disgrace our Nation.
    In November of 2010
    the entire House of Representatives will stand for re-election;
    all 435 of them.
    One third of the Senate,
    a total of 33 of them, will also stand for re-election.
    Vote every incumbent out.
    And I mean every one of them.
    No matter their Party affiliation.
    Let's start all over in the House of Representatives with 435 people
    who have absolutely no experience in running that body,
    with no political favors owed to anyone but their own constituents.
    Let's make them understand that they work for us...
    They are answerable to us
    and they simply have to run that body with some common sense.
    Two years later, in 2012,
    vote the next third of the incumbents in the Senate out.
    We can do the same thing in 2014 and,
    by that time we will have put all new people in that body as well.

    We, the People,
    have got to take this Country back and we HAVE to do it peacefully.
    That's what the Framers of our Constitution envisioned.

    I am also suggesting term limits on the NEW BUNCH –
    8 YEARS FOR REPRESENTATIVES AND 12 YEARS OF SENATORS.
    NO EXCEPTIONS.
    THE LONGER THEY STAY IN OFFICE THE MORE POWER THEY GET
    AND THEY LOVE IT AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET RE-ELECTED.

    WE HAVE TERM LIMITED THE PRESIDENT NOW LET'S TERM LIMIT THE LEGISLATORS.

    Please,
    if you love this Country,
    send this (as I have done) to absolutely everyone
    whose email address appears in your address book....
    This thing can permeate this Country in no time.
    Let's make it happen.**

    VOTE THE POWER ABUSERS OUT...
    LET'S TAKE AMERICA BACK !!!

    IF YOU LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING IN OUR COUNTRY,
    THEN DO NOTHING...
  • Oh, Scott. How did you come out of that family?
  • Well honestly my dad trolls when he responds in those E-mails.
  • Well honestly my dad trolls when he responds in those E-mails.
    Man, I hope so. Your dad is so much more reasonable in person.
  • Well honestly my dad trolls when he responds in those E-mails.
    Oh, that explains so much! No wonder you are so hairy - your father is a troll! ^_~
  • Goddamn, your pop is one crazy dude sometimes. How can he be so practical about day to day stuff, but so wacky when it comes to politics?
  • See Robert Heinlein :-p
  • Oh oh, the conversation continued.

    My dad:
    Rep. and Dem. also see what he is up to.. They are not happy, People like last time will vote Dem. out just like they voted Rep. out because of Bush, they will vote Dem. out because of Obama and his incompetent crew..
    The health care package was spear headed by Hillery.. Bad then and bad now.. But being forced feed to all .. Nice... N/Y
    I have talked to many people that voted Obama, that regret it big time.. They just didn.t want McCain.. Would McCain have done a different thing.. That I could not tell you.. But I would feel better as a Commander and chief McCain being in that seat for sure.. Most Vets would..
    Voting for Bush was my only chose to be made by me.. The alternative was Gore.. NO F in Way... Biggest sack of shit I have ever seen.. Bush wasn.t a great President. But he was a two term President.. The Military liked him and respected him way more then Clinton Or now Obama ..So when history is written Bush will not look as bad as you pant the picture of him..I No that he wasn.t a bright light.. but he wasn.t a dimwit like the Medea and Tv. portrayed him.. He didn.t become the president of the united States being what you and the media thought of him.. You only wish you could close to what he became in your life..
    Yes they still blame Bush for the troubles we are in... STILL!!

    Yes you will see, and when history writes about this.. You may understand what I told you.. Maybe if you read it from a historian you will understand... Maybe not..

    Sad , yes all Americans should be sad to see what is being done to the Great USA..
    God bless America,


    Me: How long did it take for us to get out the depression? I guess you believe all problems are fixed overnight? How enlightened of you. I guess the Iraq war was won when we said "Mission Accomplished" and when we moved away from Afghanistan it just calmed down and became a nice well functioning democracy. You really don't have a long memory, Bill Clinton was being called a one term president after his first year and Bush was having the same problem until 9-11 happened. Noone is ready for the presidency, I'm sure President Obama's second year will go smoother (that is if his picks for different offices could actually get through congress). You listen to way to much hyperbolic rhetoric about what is going on. You need to wake up to the false patriotism that is expounded by these E-mails and FOX-news. Do real research, look into the facts, check www.snopes.com or www.factcheck.org or look at a variety of sources. The conservative movement lost it's way when it only focused on fear, division and misinformation. It only has the follower's like yourself because you are unable to do your own critical thinking about the information that is being fed to you.

    Love ya, even though your a ignorant republican.
  • Subject: Guess I Won't Be Drinking Starbucks!
    Read to the end!

    Recently Marines in Iraq wrote to Starbucks because they wanted to
    let them know how much they liked their coffees and to request that they
    send some of it to the troops there. Starbucks replied, telling the Marines
    thank you for their support of their business, but that Starbucks does not
    support the war, nor anyone in it, and that they would not send the troops
    their brand of coffee.

    So as not to offend Starbucks, maybe we should not support them by
    buying any of their products! I feel we should get this out in the open.
    I know this war might not be very popular with some folks, but that
    doesn't mean we don't support the boys on the ground fighting ! street
    -to-street and house-to-house.

    If you feel the same as I do then pass this along, or you can discard
    it and no one will never know.

    Thanks very much for your support. I know you'll all be there again when I deploy once more.

    Semper Fidelis..
    Sgt. Howard C.. Wright
    1st Force Recon Co
    1st Plt PLT

    PLEASE DON'T DELETE THIS . ALLOW IT TO BE PASSED TO ALL IN MEMORY OF
    ALL THE TROOPS WHO HAVE DIED SO THAT WE MAY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE TO
    SUPPORT THEM OR NOT! ! !

    Also, don't forget that when the Twin Trade Towers were hit the fire
    fighters and rescue workers went to Starbucks because it was close by
    for water for the survivors and workers and Starbucks charged them!

    JUST A NOTE TO THIS; STARBUCKS HAD STORES ON SEVERAL MILITARY BASES
    IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY ARE NOW BEING REMOVED BECAUSE OF THIS. GO GET
    'EM AMERICA . STAND-UP FOR OURSELVES!

    TIME TO SHOW STARBUCKS, ETC. = YOU DON'T SNUB OUR TROOPS & THINK WE'LL "SUPPORT YOUR BUSINESS!" YOU'RE SADLY MISTAKEN!
    ONLY THOSE IDIOTIC ENOUGH TO CONTINUE TO BUY STARBUCKS WILL IGNORE THE STUPIDITY OF STARBUCKS' SNUB OF OUR TROOPS.
    SEMPER FI!
  • edited January 2010
    Starbucks bollocks
    First - Snopes is already on the scene. Second - Dear Jackasses, you're not a fucking marine, stop using Semper Fi in that manner, you worse than REMF Blunt dumbarse redneck mothfuckers. Third - Mothfuckers was not a typo.
    Post edited by Churba on
  • Yeap, It does the sterotypical thing where they use "I'm a Marine like you were" to make you believe them without question and then feed you B.S. that you will accept because it's from your fellow "marine"
  • Maybe this is just a brilliant move by a Starbucks competitor.
  • Maybe this is just a brilliant move by a Starbucks competitor.
    Probably not, because there are people like me who would buy more Starbucks knowing that their company has a dedicated pacifist bent.
  • Probably not, because there are people like me who would buy more Starbucks knowing that their company has a dedicated pacifist bent.
    It was mostly a joke. :) Apparently, this thing's gone around with Oscar Meyer instead of Starbucks, too.
  • edited January 2010
    Another funny one, with bonus commentary from myself and my dad at the end.

    Gun owners... look what's on the 2010 tax return
    VERIFIED - TRUE by snopes.com
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp
    As if we didn't have enough to get upset about! If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!

    It begins ... more Freedom gone ... the right to protect yourself and your family gone! Now ALL GUNS must be listed on your next (2010) tax return!

    Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on February 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT, this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama? You must be kidding!

    The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage: www.senate.gov. You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.

    Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009: www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

    Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

    It has begun ... Whatever Obama's "Secret Master Plan" is ... this is just the 'tip of the iceberg!'

    Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

    Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill before signing and approving it!

    To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Goggle HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

    Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
    1) It is registered
    2) You are fingerprinted
    3) You supply a current Driver's License
    4) You supply your Social Security number
    5) You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing

    Each update change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25. Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

    There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from cessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 years in prison.

    If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along.

    This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

    This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

    Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress) "http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45>;

    H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009
    -
    U...S. Congress - OpenCongress http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>;

    H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of
    2009 (GovTrack.us) "http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>;

    Please copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA, whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control.. We all should have the right to choose.

    Me: I guess they didn't read the Snopes article (since it says it has a snowball's chance in hell of passing), this is one of those bills that one or more congressmen put forward but will never see the light of day. You'll see lots of crazy bills like this over the course of any particular year. Nothing to see here.

    Dad: Doesn't matter if it has a chance in hell or not.. This guys has to go.. Wake up and open your eyes to what it going on..

    Me: Which guy? rep. Bobby Rush of illinois? Who promised a father of the dead child that he would at least put forth the bill and see if people would vote on it?

    I'm sorry this has nothing to do with Obama and has everything to do with a representative putting a bill up that he promised his hometown voters he would attempt to put up. You are so biased you don't even understand the basic politics of the situation. The bill has ZERO co-sponsors this was put forward for the sake of a grieving father with no chance of coming to the floor. I figured you would understand that but no you would rather try and blame in on Obama. You are SO easily manipulated it's not funny. Yet again you are fooled by the propaganda and lies of these E-mails.

    Let's say I was elected to council and a sizable portion of the borough came to me and asked me to pursue speed bumps on a street that a large amount of council wouldn't agree with. Being a good representative of the people, I would help the people raise the issue and illustrate how to bring forth the issue. If they did a good job presenting their reasons and the plan had some merit I might even vote for it to show support for the people who raised the issue but I already would know that it would not pass. This is how politicians represnt the people. If you don't understand this aspect you really don't know anything about process of politics.

    I'll repeat this again. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA. You would be so amusing if you were not a representative of a small but sizable minority. Even when Snopes says something is true, they mean the "bill" is true, not necessarily all the commentary around it.
    Post edited by Cremlian on
  • My uncle:

    Subject: Doctors

    An Israeli doctor says 'medicine in my country is so advanced that we
    can take a kidney out of one man and put it in another, and have him
    looking for work in six weeks.' A German doctor says 'that is nothing;
    we can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him
    looking for work in four weeks.' A Russian doctor says 'in my country,
    medicine is so advanced that we can take half a heart out of one person,
    put it in another, and have them both looking for work in two weeks.' An
    ILLINOIS doctor, not to be outdone, says 'you guys are way behind, we
    recently took a man with no brains out of ILLINOIS, put him in the White
    House for NINE MONTHS, and now half the COUNTRY is looking for work.
    =

    This is the yahoo-jesus-pass-it-to-12-members-of-your-church-and-god-will-bless-you-don't-forget-to-send-money-to-Billy-Graham-by-the-way-are-you-going-to-the-Promise-Keepers-rally-OMG-another-Left-Behind-novel-is-coming-out-let's-burn-those-Harry-Potter-books-I'm-marching-on-an-abortion-clinic-wave-your-hands-in-the-air-to-the-Bill-Gaither-video-Lee-Greenwood-is-my-favorite-secular-artist-icthus-on-my-bumper-women-should-obey-their-husbands-type uncle.
  • edited January 2010
    Oh no! A perfectly reasonable gun control bill! Whatever are we to do?
    This is the yahoo-jesus-pass-it-to-12-members-of-your-church-and-god-will-bless-you-don't-forget-to-send-money-to-Billy-Graham-by-the-way-are-you-going-to-the-Promise-Keepers-rally-OMG-another-Left-Behind-novel-is-coming-out-let's-burn-those-Harry-Potter-books-I'm-marching-on-an-abortion-clinic-wave-your-hands-in-the-air-to-the-Bill-Gaither-video-Lee-Greenwood-is-my-favorite-secular-artist-icthus-on-my-bumper-women-should-obey-their-husbands-type uncle.
    Wow, I need to try to start using that to describe people.
    Post edited by Li_Akahi on
  • Oh no! A perfectly reasonable gun control bill! Whatever are we to do?
    Well, a $50 tax on every gun a person owns would be really, really, really stupid.

    Thankfully, the proposed bill doesn't do anything like that.
  • Thankfully, the proposed bill doesn't do anything like that.
    Or has any chance of passing.
  • Political e-mail from Uncle
    This pisses me off. Yeah, person doesn't like Obama, whatever. I don't care. But this joke is older then George Washington, you would think that for all their supposed intelligence in uncovering or spotting the mistakes in all these grand horrible governmental misdeed and broken schemes, they could come up with AN ORIGINAL FUCKING JOKE.
  • edited January 2010
    Political e-mail from Uncle
    This pisses me off. Yeah, person doesn't like Obama, whatever. I don't care. But this joke is older then George Washington, you would think that for all their supposed intelligence in uncovering or spotting the mistakes in all these grand horrible governmental misdeed and broken schemes, they could come up with AN ORIGINAL FUCKING JOKE.
    Those people don't have much in the originality department. If you expect originality from them, you'll be disappointed.
    Post edited by HungryJoe on
  • Those people don't have much in the originality department. If you expect originality from them, you'll be disappointed.
    They already get everything from an old, racist, sexist, homophobic, historically inaccurate, warmongering, vengeful, judgmental book. They take orders from dead men. Originality is to them as Joss Whedon is to Fox.
  • Added commentary at the end from my dad and then my TOTAL OWNAGE of him

    FW: The President of Change and firsts

    Here you go...!

    1st president in 110 years to miss the annual Army-Navy Football Game.

    1st president to not attend any Christmas religious observance.

    1st president to stay on vacation after a terrorist attack.

    Add to that the first President not to stay in Washington for Christmas
    for the last 20 years. Past Presidents did not leave Washington for
    Christmas vacation until after Christmas. This was done so that their
    staff (Secret Service, Air Force One Crew, Limousine transport,
    Presidential advancing logistics etc.) could be with their families for
    Christmas.

    Dad: If it barks like a dog , most likely it is a dog.. Ice berg dead ahead... and you are telling the captain full speed ahead... Nice.. Spend the time to feel what is going on, people that blindly followed this Use Car Sales man.. (like that financial adviser that took them all over).. Are finding out that they made the wrong choice.. But you will have a excuse for him.. If he was a Rep. I would feel the same.. It might just be to late anyway..

    Me: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/trifecta.asp Weird, completely false. Who would have guessed. And some of these Bush was the first... How interesting. I didn't hear the democrats complaining when Bush didn't cut his vacation short... Oh wait, that's because they are not looking for EVERY little thing to try and take the president down.

    How odd, If it lies like a liar, then it is most likely a liar. Better luck next time, why don't you make a policy argument next time. Ad homenin attacks just make you look petty.
  • Your dad loves the inappropriate ellipses! Just a question, why does he always called Obama a used car salesman? I don't understand the joke.
  • Your dad loves the inappropriate ellipses! Just a question, why does he always called Obama a used car salesman? I don't understand the joke.
    I'm sure he just heard it somewhere and figured it was clever.... But it follows the theme of Obama has "conned" the people into voting for him.
  • But it follows the theme of Obama has "conned" the people into voting for him.
    I'm torn between "That's just petty" and "Don't they call that, y'know, Being a politician?" (No offense, Scojo)
  • I'm torn between "That's just petty" and "Don't they call that, y'know, Being a politician?" (No offense, Scojo)
    Yea, I generally just point out he didn't call Bush a used car salesmen... but again my dad is colored by his partisan view.
  • edited January 2010
    What drives me nuts about this kind of E-mail, is that people seem to take a person's opinion as fact. I am constantly commenting on these forwards with the quote "You are entitled to your opinions but you sir are not entitled to the facts".. but in this post-foxnews world people don't seem to understand this.

    Subject: YOU WON'T FIND THIS LADY IN OBAMA'S ADMINISTRATION

    ANNE WORTHAM

    Anne Wortham is:

    Associate Professor of Sociology at Illinois State University and continuing
    Visiting Scholar at Stanford University 's Hoover Institution.

    She is a member of the American Sociological Association
    and the American Philosophical Association.
    She has been a John M. Olin Foundation
    Faculty Fellow, and honored as a Distinguished Alumni of the Year by the
    National Association for Equal Opportunity in Higher Education.
    In fall 1988 she was one of a select
    group of intellectuals who were featured in Bill Moyer's television series, "A
    World of Ideas" The transcript of her conversation with Moyers has been
    published in his book, A World of Ideas.

    Dr. Wortham is author of "The Other Side of Racism:
    A Philosophical Study of Black Race Consciousness" which analyzes how
    race consciousness is transformed into political strategies and policy
    issues.

    She has published numerous articles on the implications of individual rights for civil
    rights policy, and is currently writing a book on theories of social and
    cultural marginality.

    Recently, she has published articles on the
    significance of multiculturalism and Afrocentricism in education, the politics
    of victimization and the social and political impact of political correctness.
    Shortly after an interview in 2004, she was awarded tenure.

    This article by her is something.


    Fellow Americans,

    Please know: I am Black; I grew up in the
    segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul's name as
    my choice for president. Most importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not
    require a Black president to know that I am a person of worth, and that life is
    worth living. I do not require a Black president to love the ideal of America.

    I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There
    is no smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph
    in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have to deny
    all that I know about the requirements of human flourishing and survival - all
    that I know about the history of the United States of America , all that I know
    about American race relations, and all that I know about Barack Obama as a
    politician. I would have to deny the nature of the "change" that Obama asserts
    has come to America .

    Most importantly, I would have to abnegate my
    certain understanding that you have chosen to sprint down the road to serfdom
    that we have been on for over a century. I would have to pretend that individual
    liberty has no value for the success of a human life. I would have to evade your
    rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on which your success and mine
    depend. I would have to think it somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12
    million Blacks in this country voted for a man because he looks like them (that
    Blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that they were joined by
    self-declared "progressive" whites who voted for him because he doesn't look
    like them..

    I would have to wipe my mind clean of
    all that I know about the kind of people who have advised and taught Barack
    Obama and will fill posts in his administration - political intellectuals like
    my former colleagues at the Harvard University 's Kennedy School of
    Government.

    I would have to believe that "fairness" is equivalent
    of justice. I would have to believe that a man who asks me to "go forward in a
    new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice" is speaking in my
    interest.. I would have to accept the premise of a man that economic prosperity
    comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly believes that he can will it into
    existence by the use of government force. I would have to admire a man who
    thinks the standard of living of the masses can be improved by destroying the
    most productive and the generators of wealth.

    Finally, Americans, I
    would have to erase from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming,
    crying, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago irrationally chanting "Yes We
    Can!" Finally, I would have to wipe all memory of all the times I have heard
    politicians, pundits, journalists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals
    declare that capitalism is dead - and no one, including especially Alan
    Greenspan, objected to their assumption that the particular version of the
    anti-capitalistic mentality that they want to replace with their own version of
    anti-capitalism is anything remotely equivalent to capitalism.

    So you have made history, Americans. You and your children have elected a Black man
    to the office of the president of the United States , the wounded giant of the
    world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over - and that Fonda
    won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern must be very happy men. Jimmie
    Carter, too. And the Kennedys have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The
    self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm moments of
    satisfaction for having elected a Black person.

    So, toast
    yourselves: 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois
    bohemians. Toast yourselves, BlackAmerica. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton ,
    Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not an individual who is
    qualified to be president, but a Black man who, like the pragmatist Franklin
    Roosevelt, promises to - Do Something! You now have someone who has picked up
    the baton of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. But you have also foolishly traded
    your freedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feel good.

    There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness. God Help Us all...
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  • Fwd: The real danger to America

    "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency.
    It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.
    The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president." --
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