... I don't think you're reading what you're actually writing, dude. Every post I've seen you make so far is more or less "Sexy costumes are bad because..." and then a reason. You then tried to justify, indirectly, the geek belief of girls as fake geeks by bringing up the fact that girls sometimes use their tits, rather than craftsmanship, to get attention (which I agree with. I once saw a friend lose a karaoke competition because she was wearing trousers instead of a garment that skirted the line between skirt and belt). However, you presented that as if you can generalize from "Well, some girls do this" to "This is an accurate representation of the way females act". Every single response you've made to me so far has a clear line of reasoning from it to "Sexy costumes are always bad because they're lazy".
If that's not what you meant, then fine, I concede the sub-point that I am misreading your point. It seems more to me that you're not being very clear, or you're trying to backpedal from an argument that you're finding yourself on the unpopular side of.
Example, girlfriend has massive boobs and is currently an electrical engineer student playing with radios at Harris RF for her co-op.
My situation.
You have massive boobs and are currently an electrical engineer student at Harris RF for your co-op?
Yeah, it makes all of Joe's college friends very uncomfortable, me included.
Bitch please, I look *fabulous* in a v-neck.
Also the number of male engineering students around here who can be classified as having "massive boobs" is certainly unsettling. Quite pleased I'm not one of them.
No. No. No. Sorry, but you're arguing some strawman that is not contained in my posts. I really don't know how to continue this conversation. You are exasperating.
You mentioned the "fake geeks" thing. I gave my personal opinion of what drives the stereotype of "fake geek girls", which is that a minority of the population has a particular personality type that personifies that stereotype. I said right there in my post that it's not justified. I said right there in my post that it's just a stereotype. I said right there in my post that there's nothing inherently wrong with sexy costumes.
You seem to have SUCH baggage regarding this that you apparently can't read a sentence from me on this topic without mentally adding your own notations and reading between the lines in a way that I neither intend nor have any control over.
Seriously, go back and read what I wrote. Quote it if you like, and try to explain how you got this ridiculous analysis from MY words, rather than your presuppositions regarding the subject matter.
Example, girlfriend has massive boobs and is currently an electrical engineer student playing with radios at Harris RF for her co-op.
My situation.
You have massive boobs and are currently an electrical engineer student at Harris RF for your co-op?
Yeah, it makes all of Joe's college friends very uncomfortable, me included.
Bitch please, I look *fabulous* in a v-neck.
Also the number of male engineering students around here who can be classified as having "massive boobs" is certainly unsettling. Quite pleased I'm not one of them.
Example, girlfriend has massive boobs and is currently an electrical engineer student playing with radios at Harris RF for her co-op.
My situation.
You have massive boobs and are currently an electrical engineer student at Harris RF for your co-op?
Yeah, it makes all of Joe's college friends very uncomfortable, me included.
Bitch please, I look *fabulous* in a v-neck.
Also the number of male engineering students around here who can be classified as having "massive boobs" is certainly unsettling. Quite pleased I'm not one of them.
Its interesting you guys are bringing this up now. There was a panel at AWA this weekend on the sociology of cosplay with Yaya Han and we talked about this. It seems like at major cons a lot of ladies show up in sexy costumes. Many of them pick a character just because it's sexy (not exactly hard to find sexy characters in the geek world), and the huge annoyance is that they know nothing about the character or source material. Its even worse if they just bought it off the rack and didn't put any effort into it. My opinion (and many others at the panel) is that this is not cool. If you are cosplaying as something, it should be because you have some connection with that character or source other than "its sexy!" Maybe its okay if you normally do legit cosplays and just want a sexy break here and there. :-P Anyway, its annoying to see cons full of people that just think its another Halloween type thing, an excuse to be a slut. I'll be cosplaying as Aela the Huntress from Skyrim at some point, and I hope people don't think I'm just trying to be sexy. I legitimately love her outfit/armor.
Example, girlfriend has massive boobs and is currently an electrical engineer student playing with radios at Harris RF for her co-op.
My situation.
You have massive boobs and are currently an electrical engineer student at Harris RF for your co-op?
Yeah, it makes all of Joe's college friends very uncomfortable, me included.
Bitch please, I look *fabulous* in a v-neck.
Also the number of male engineering students around here who can be classified as having "massive boobs" is certainly unsettling. Quite pleased I'm not one of them.
I'm glad I'm such a skinny bitch.
I always was, too, and then I got old.
But my eating habits are bizarre, which is why I'm skinny more than anything. Seriously, 105 pounds or so at 5'7".
I'm glad I'm such a skinny bitch.
One of the reasons I'm enjoying weightlifting - now I can look stocky and have all that mass actually be muscle.
If I had more pain tolerance for weights, I could become the tightest little bundle of muscle.
Its interesting you guys are bringing this up now. There was a panel at AWA this weekend on the sociology of cosplay with Yaya Han and we talked about this. It seems like at major cons a lot of ladies show up in sexy costumes. Many of them pick a character just because it's sexy (not exactly hard to find sexy characters in the geek world), and the huge annoyance is that they know nothing about the character or source material. Its even worse if they just bought it off the rack and didn't put any effort into it. My opinion (and many others at the panel) is that this is not cool. If you are cosplaying as something, it should be because you have some connection with that character or source other than "its sexy!" Maybe its okay if you normally do legit cosplays and just want a sexy break here and there. :-P Anyway, its annoying to see cons full of people that just think its another Halloween type thing, an excuse to be a slut. I'll be cosplaying as Aela the Huntress from Skyrim at some point, and I hope people don't think I'm just trying to be sexy. I legitimately love her outfit/armor.
/end elite cosplayer rant :-p
This was basically my point. When the "I just like it because it's sexy" people start to outnumber the people who put actual thought and effort into their costumes (which might also be sexy, who cares?), it's aggravating and cheapens the hobby. This doesn't mean every girl in a sexy costume is an asshole, it means the assholes are assholes.
ETA - OK before I get slammed for it, "outnumber" is the wrong word, but the population seems to grow every year and I can see why people think that the "superman, but with tits" crowd is taking over the conventions, to the detriment of the community. A canonical superman costume, or alternate universe Superwoman costume that has some actual effort and thought and skill put into it: great. Some half-assed S shield emblazoned on a tight midriff baring shirt and some knee high red latex boots: meh.
If I had more pain tolerance for weights, I could become the tightest little bundle of muscle.
Come w. me to the gym sometime, weightlifting is ridiculously nerdy, and it's simple enough to swap exercises for something equivalent (and less painful) when you find yourself disliking a particular exercise.
If I had more pain tolerance for weights, I could become the tightest little bundle of muscle.
Come w. me to the gym sometime, weightlifting is ridiculously nerdy, and it's simple enough to swap exercises for something equivalent (and less painful) when you find yourself disliking a particular exercise.
If I had more pain tolerance for weights, I could become the tightest little bundle of muscle.
Come w. me to the gym sometime, weightlifting is ridiculously nerdy, and it's simple enough to swap exercises for something equivalent (and less painful) when you find yourself disliking a particular exercise.
Teach me your ways. I want to get swole.
Step 1: Make an awesome playlist. If you don't already like heavy electronic/metal subgenres, you will need to change your ways.
If I had more pain tolerance for weights, I could become the tightest little bundle of muscle.
Come w. me to the gym sometime, weightlifting is ridiculously nerdy, and it's simple enough to swap exercises for something equivalent (and less painful) when you find yourself disliking a particular exercise.
We'll see. I tried doing stuff with my roommate last year, but it might be that he didn't understand how to start small with me (He's a go big or go home kinda guy).
If I had more pain tolerance for weights, I could become the tightest little bundle of muscle.
Come w. me to the gym sometime, weightlifting is ridiculously nerdy, and it's simple enough to swap exercises for something equivalent (and less painful) when you find yourself disliking a particular exercise.
We'll see. I tried doing stuff with my roommate last year, but it might be that he didn't understand how to start small with me (He's a go big or go home kinda guy).
I've got a little journal thing with all of my exercises for each day - really useful for referencing what I did previously, and going based on that. It's easy enough for me to go back and see what I was doing my first few weeks, which should give you some idea of where you can start. PM me or something if you're curious, I'd be happy to give you a better picture/some suggestions to start out.
You know it's supposed to hurt right? I mean, the way you build muscle is by tearing the fibers and letting them grow back bigger. The same way martial artists produce micro fractures so the bones heal denser.
Exercise is not supposed to be fun, as it's really not something you do to entertain yourself, the excitement, energy, endorphins, etc. you get out of it is the actual progress you get, that's why they say you have to stick with it for a few weeks before you start getting the high.
Someone (myself, six months ago) conned me into taking three reputedly hard classes for this semester. One class gives long(ish) programming assignments, and the other two give really really hard problem sets. I miss sleep.
I mean, I could have just gone to school for Econ and breezed through into a well-paying public policy/economic research job, but no, I decided I wanted to learn about computers. What a non-lazy idiot I was.
Yeah, you really could have. I decided I wanted to make games, though, and I think we both know that was the stupider option in terms of long-term viability.
Its interesting you guys are bringing this up now. There was a panel at AWA this weekend on the sociology of cosplay with Yaya Han and we talked about this. It seems like at major cons a lot of ladies show up in sexy costumes. Many of them pick a character just because it's sexy (not exactly hard to find sexy characters in the geek world), and the huge annoyance is that they know nothing about the character or source material. Its even worse if they just bought it off the rack and didn't put any effort into it. My opinion (and many others at the panel) is that this is not cool. If you are cosplaying as something, it should be because you have some connection with that character or source other than "its sexy!" Maybe its okay if you normally do legit cosplays and just want a sexy break here and there. :-P Anyway, its annoying to see cons full of people that just think its another Halloween type thing, an excuse to be a slut. I'll be cosplaying as Aela the Huntress from Skyrim at some point, and I hope people don't think I'm just trying to be sexy. I legitimately love her outfit/armor.
/end elite cosplayer rant :-p
Ugh c'mon. Alright, so I really like Garo's costume from the show Garo. Probably the sexiest gold lion armor around. And I like the show. I don't think it's fantastic, but it was good entertainment. At the same time, the character isn't very interesting. I don't even remember his name! Making that costume takes a fuck ton of effort, and doing it well is probably harder than-- well, most other possible costumes. I don't have any connection with the character. The only reason I wanna make this costume is that it's sexy. Does that disqualify the 500 hours I'd have to spend making it? Or here's a better example. Kamen Rider Eternal from the W, A-Z movie. That movie was pretty meh, Eternal was a terrible character, he had like maybe 3 lines, and they were dumb and badly acted. But he looked awesome. Am I not allowed to dress up as him?
You know it's supposed to hurt right? I mean, the way you build muscle is by tearing the fibers and letting them grow back bigger. The same way martial artists produce micro fractures so the bones heal denser.
Exercise is not supposed to be fun, as it's really not something you do to entertain yourself, the excitement, energy, endorphins, etc. you get out of it is the actual progress you get, that's why they say you have to stick with it for a few weeks before you start getting the high.
True, but there's a significant difference between "feeling the burn" or general muscle soreness, and direct, local pain. One is the normal progression of things when you're building up muscle, the other is a sign that you're doing things horribly wrong. Try doing squats before you've learned the proper form, and you'll walk away with horrible knee and/or lower back pain, rather than your legs feeling bulked up and sore.
Got way too angry at an ignorant mom on reddit who insists that boys should not have long hair "because sports." She absolutely refuses to admit that girls also engage in sports where long hair could be a liability, or to examine her justification whatsoever. Her only responses are mockery and dismissal, in turns.
Why this bugs me so much, I don't know. Must be the prednisone again. I was mocked and/or dismissed throughout my entire school career by people who were wrong and just didn't care that (or even whether) they were wrong, and now I have a MASSIVE chip on my shoulder about it. GRAH!
Got way too angry at an ignorant mom on reddit who insists that boys should not have long hair "because sports." She absolutely refuses to admit that girls also engage in sports where long hair could be a liability, or to examine her justification whatsoever. Her only responses are mockery and dismissal, in turns.
Why this bugs me so much, I don't know. Must be the prednisone again. I was mocked and/or dismissed throughout my entire school career by people who were wrong and just didn't care that (or even whether) they were wrong, and now I have a MASSIVE chip on my shoulder about it. GRAH!
Honestly, I've been on Reddit for years, and I still find it impossible to seperate the genuinely stupid people from the people trying to get someone's goat. I'm still pretty sure /r/mensrights is a long con.
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If that's not what you meant, then fine, I concede the sub-point that I am misreading your point. It seems more to me that you're not being very clear, or you're trying to backpedal from an argument that you're finding yourself on the unpopular side of.
Also the number of male engineering students around here who can be classified as having "massive boobs" is certainly unsettling. Quite pleased I'm not one of them.
You mentioned the "fake geeks" thing. I gave my personal opinion of what drives the stereotype of "fake geek girls", which is that a minority of the population has a particular personality type that personifies that stereotype. I said right there in my post that it's not justified. I said right there in my post that it's just a stereotype. I said right there in my post that there's nothing inherently wrong with sexy costumes.
You seem to have SUCH baggage regarding this that you apparently can't read a sentence from me on this topic without mentally adding your own notations and reading between the lines in a way that I neither intend nor have any control over.
Seriously, go back and read what I wrote. Quote it if you like, and try to explain how you got this ridiculous analysis from MY words, rather than your presuppositions regarding the subject matter.
/end elite cosplayer rant :-p
Now I'm about 250. Some of that is age and slowing metabolism, some of it is steroid therapy for Crohn's, but age will fuck you. :-)
ETA - OK before I get slammed for it, "outnumber" is the wrong word, but the population seems to grow every year and I can see why people think that the "superman, but with tits" crowd is taking over the conventions, to the detriment of the community. A canonical superman costume, or alternate universe Superwoman costume that has some actual effort and thought and skill put into it: great. Some half-assed S shield emblazoned on a tight midriff baring shirt and some knee high red latex boots: meh.
The other steps come naturally.
Not in the good way.
More in the "holy fuck, how did I do this much damage to my leg in my sleep" way.
Exercise is not supposed to be fun, as it's really not something you do to entertain yourself, the excitement, energy, endorphins, etc. you get out of it is the actual progress you get, that's why they say you have to stick with it for a few weeks before you start getting the high.
Why am I in an engineering school again?
I decided I wanted to make games, though, and I think we both know that was the stupider option in terms of long-term viability.
Or here's a better example. Kamen Rider Eternal from the W, A-Z movie. That movie was pretty meh, Eternal was a terrible character, he had like maybe 3 lines, and they were dumb and badly acted. But he looked awesome. Am I not allowed to dress up as him?
Why this bugs me so much, I don't know. Must be the prednisone again. I was mocked and/or dismissed throughout my entire school career by people who were wrong and just didn't care that (or even whether) they were wrong, and now I have a MASSIVE chip on my shoulder about it. GRAH!