Plan B has been found to have an effectiveness drop at 165 lbs and stops working at 175 lbs. So once again only the thin people benefit from modern medicine?
Sounds pretty much like any job that is worth it. The days of working 9-5 are long gone. Hell my job is fairly basic and even I have to do some work out of hours for it.
The days of working 9-5 are alive and well for people who know what their boundaries are and know how to enforce them. It's entirely unacceptable that an employer should want to invade on my own personal time. Work life balance, bitches.
That's not to say that, with an IT job, I don't sometimes work on an important, emergent issue after hours, but it had better be an emergency, and it had better be a minority of the time. If you're managing your organization so badly that you need me at random times as a matter of course, then I don't want to work for you.
I mean this in the nicest way but age can be a kicker. I get the impression you have been in your field for a while now. Compare that with someone who is in their 20's then you realise that 9-5, for a real job not shelf stacking, doesn't exist.
Also with this job you are multi hat so its going to take up far more time than one normally would.
9-5 for a real job does exist. I have never worked more than 9 to 5 since graduation.
Also, fuck work-life balance. I hate that term. It implies you should balance your time such that work and life get about the same. FUCK THAT. I want an imbalance, heavily in favor of life and against work. Work minimization. Spend as little time at work as is necessary to maintain life, and not a moment more.
Yeah, I've worked plenty of 9-5s (or equivalents). Really, the longest hours I've done on a regular basis were behind the bar(Not uncommon to do 12 hour shifts, or two 8 hour shifts with only a few hours sleep in between), when I was flying(also the only job that provided beds, if that's any indication), and now that I'm freelance, where I'm never technically off the clock, but tend to put down about 70-80 hours a week of actual I-am-doing-work-now working time. None of those are really anything new, bartenders, flight attendants, and the self employed have always worked crazy hours.
I mean this in the nicest way but age can be a kicker. I get the impression you have been in your field for a while now. Compare that with someone who is in their 20's then you realise that 9-5, for a real job not shelf stacking, doesn't exist.
Also with this job you are multi hat so its going to take up far more time than one normally would.
I agree that it's an age thing, but not in the way that you think it is.
I think that young people feel that they're in a weak bargaining position far more than their counterparts a couple of decades ago did, and that's unfortunate especially in that it may even be true. Although honestly, the willingness to turn down a job and walk away because it's asking too much for too little goes a long way, and yeah, I was scared to do that when I was young, too.
I worry that there's a cultural shift going on in the US where the "dignitiy of labor" meme has spread to the point that people don't even really value their free time, or are even ashamed of it. That's terrible, and needs to die, but hopefully it's more imagined on my part than true.
My co-workers are salaried, meaning the they work long hours and get paid the same rate if they were to work short hours. It's pretty dumb, because they all work what would be considered overtime every single day. I'm comfy with my per hour rate, thank you very much. Dunno why American corporations are so understaffed that everyone has to work overtime. Is they dumb?
Yep. Generally, Americans are willing to take positions that require more that 40 hours of work per week, because if they aren't willing to do that somebody else is.
The more I read about the job description, the more I know that it's really a job that only someone who watched PA: The Series and thought it was the greatest environment ever would do. If my skills actually aligned with that and this was 4-5 years ago I would probably think it sounded awesome. Now I just see how no matter how awesome the PA Corporate Machine is, I deserve better. It's a sad thought that most game companies will pay a new programmer (often working in one specific area) more than what PA is giving. Less benefits, but probably quite a bit more job and life satisfaction.
The main reason it think it is terrible is that, to me, it looks like two, or maybe three, different jobs. If there were two positions, each paying about 70,000, with overlapping duties on things that may fall outside of working hours (like alternating who is on call for emergencies, or coving each other when one is on vacation) it would, to me, look like a reasonable job.
But this is one position for one person. Even if paid 140,000, what kind of life is that one person signing up for?
And due to the wording of the job posting, I don't expect them to pay that kind of money. The posting itself preemptively defends lower pay by saying they rather spend money on the working environment. Great.
If PA was a startup, it would be more understandable. But it's no longer a startup. The guy leaving had that job. Now things are in place, and they should start being grown up about their hiring processes.
Huh. So apparently, under the right conditions--which apparently are a 24/7 study area, a laptop plugin, a comfy-but-not-too-comfy bench, and a low table upon which to prop my feet--I can work on an essay for 12 hours straight with minimal need for breaks, so long as that essay is about shit I like.
I dunno, I'm not expecting Khoo to offer a particularly non-competitive salary for the IT arena.
Dude said he was leaving because he needed a job that paid better.
Cons: you are the slave of a "not money oriented" multi-million dollar company, shackled to them with a pair of manacles that are also an umbilical cord Pro: ...ping pong table?
I think I was born too late. Every story my parents tell from before ~1985 starts with "well, no one carded at the time, so..." If I had been born in 1962, by this age I could've been going to rock concerts for two years. Instead, I have to wait another 7 months.
EDIT: And they would've been cheaper! Tickets to see Bruce Springsteen in 1974? $3. Tickets to see The Who in 1980? $7. Tickets to see Laura fucking Stevenson in 2013? $12. >:(
The US didn't start getting really litigious (thus more carding) until the mid-90s, and didn't really get ultra-paranoid (thus irrational levels of THINK OF THE CHILDREN, among other things) until after 9/11.
I don't give a shit about helicopter parenting. It doesn't affect me, so I don't give a damn. I'm just pissy that venues card now, so I can't go see JC Brooks. It's not even a booze thing, because the shows are 18+, not 21+. What bullshit insurance suit caused that?
I think I was born too late. Every story my parents tell from before ~1985 starts with "well, no one carded at the time, so..." If I had been born in 1962, by this age I could've been going to rock concerts for two years. Instead, I have to wait another 7 months.
EDIT: And they would've been cheaper! Tickets to see Bruce Springsteen in 1974? $3. Tickets to see The Who in 1980? $7. Tickets to see Laura fucking Stevenson in 2013? $12. >:(
Mind you, $3 in 1974 is equivalent to $14.22, but Bruce Springsteen is definitely not close to equal to Laura fucking Stevenson.
Strange development in my life. My dad traded a laptop for some radio advertising at a local volunteer radio station and now they want me to host a weekly tech show. I've never done anything remotely close to this before and I'm not sure if I can do it. Also, I would not be paid, but I think it would look pretty damn sweet on a resume. I haven't decided what I'm gonna do yet, and I don't really think I have a radio voice. I also don't know if I could just talk for an hour, sometimes I can barely keep a conversation going. This is pretty strange. Let me know what you think.
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Still sounds awful.
That's not to say that, with an IT job, I don't sometimes work on an important, emergent issue after hours, but it had better be an emergency, and it had better be a minority of the time. If you're managing your organization so badly that you need me at random times as a matter of course, then I don't want to work for you.
Also with this job you are multi hat so its going to take up far more time than one normally would.
Also, fuck work-life balance. I hate that term. It implies you should balance your time such that work and life get about the same. FUCK THAT. I want an imbalance, heavily in favor of life and against work. Work minimization. Spend as little time at work as is necessary to maintain life, and not a moment more.
I think that young people feel that they're in a weak bargaining position far more than their counterparts a couple of decades ago did, and that's unfortunate especially in that it may even be true. Although honestly, the willingness to turn down a job and walk away because it's asking too much for too little goes a long way, and yeah, I was scared to do that when I was young, too.
I worry that there's a cultural shift going on in the US where the "dignitiy of labor" meme has spread to the point that people don't even really value their free time, or are even ashamed of it. That's terrible, and needs to die, but hopefully it's more imagined on my part than true.
It's a sad thought that most game companies will pay a new programmer (often working in one specific area) more than what PA is giving. Less benefits, but probably quite a bit more job and life satisfaction.
But this is one position for one person. Even if paid 140,000, what kind of life is that one person signing up for?
And due to the wording of the job posting, I don't expect them to pay that kind of money. The posting itself preemptively defends lower pay by saying they rather spend money on the working environment. Great.
If PA was a startup, it would be more understandable. But it's no longer a startup. The guy leaving had that job. Now things are in place, and they should start being grown up about their hiring processes.
http://i.imgur.com/TcraGc4.jpg
Also, I have officially been awake for over 24 hours now. Did not intend that, but... Yaaay???
Cons: you are the slave of a "not money oriented" multi-million dollar company, shackled to them with a pair of manacles that are also an umbilical cord
Pro: ...ping pong table?
EDIT: And they would've been cheaper! Tickets to see Bruce Springsteen in 1974? $3. Tickets to see The Who in 1980? $7. Tickets to see Laura fucking Stevenson in 2013? $12. >:(