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  • "Cracker" is such a tame slur, though. Even if someone were shouting at me in the angriest of German, if they ended their rant with "du Cracker!" I'd burst out laughing.
  • There's also nothing wrong with driving cattle in Florida.
  • edited November 2012
    Oh West Virginia you so silly.

    My perception of the state will always be colored by the White family.
    Post edited by MATATAT on
  • In my mind, West Virginia is the worst state because I found it so crushingly dull when we drove to see my grandparents in Pennsylvania as a child. This is a boredom that as been permanently etched into my mind.
  • edited November 2012
    There are a decent amount of Romney and Cracker. I wonder if floating sheep will do an analytic map of that.
    "Cracker" is such a tame slur, though. Even if someone were shouting at me in the angriest of German, if they ended their rant with "du Cracker!" I'd burst out laughing.
    Also this:


    Post edited by DevilUknow on
  • West Virginia has a lot of nice mountains.
  • Amusing. If you go to Mitt Romney's Facebook page and refresh, you can actually watch the Likes drop.
  • edited November 2012
    So, 4 days after the election, it turns out Obama won Florida.
    Post edited by lackofcheese on
  • Amusing. If you go to Mitt Romney's Facebook page and refresh, you can actually watch the Likes drop.
    Oh that is goodness right there.
  • edited November 2012
    Post edited by lackofcheese on
  • Cool maps!
    The last map looked less like a map and more like a man on an acid trip trying to paint.
  • Amusing. If you go to Mitt Romney's Facebook page and refresh, you can actually watch the Likes drop.
    Oh that is goodness right there.
    Now in real time with a graph!
    http://disappearingromney.com/
  • it really bothers me that the graph has a non-zero baseline
  • edited November 2012
    The non-zero baseline is something of a necessity in order for the graph to be useful, though.
    Post edited by lackofcheese on
  • yeah.. perhaps I'd enjoy "average unlikes per hour" or something, as well as a full graph from election day onward.
  • edited November 2012
  • It strikes me that elections may be characterized as a game somewhat analogous to chicken. However, it's not Obama playing against Romney, it's the candidates versus all the voters. Maybe people aren't thrilled with either candidate, but if they don't vote for their guy, they lose the game of chicken.

    Rym talks about the winning strategy in a game of chicken: look your opponent in the eye, rip the steering wheel off, and throw it out the window.

    How do we throw the steering wheel out the window?
  • edited May 2013
    That's the move where entire states/majority of voters in a state agree not to vote, or all vote independent, or all do write-in, etc.
    It won't happen. The end.

    Edit: I also guess, on a higher level, you have States secede. Because that worked out so well before.
    Post edited by Axel on
  • States can't legally secede, so that isn't technically an option. ;^)
  • I think the internet (using youth vote as a very rough proxy) still made the best possible pick from the available options in the last two elections. My question is, how do we get lots of smart, sane, not-terrible people to commit to spending their lives being politicians?

    There are a number of electoral reforms that would promote the election of moderates (and reduce crappy candidates getting through just because of party affiliation). This would start with using computers or independent commissions to draw district lines in every state, eliminating gerrymandering. I also like the system CA implemented recently where the general is held between the two candidates who received the most votes in the primary, which will tend to elect moderates in more extreme districts. And get rid of the electoral college for a national popular vote.
  • how do we get lots of smart, sane, not-terrible people to commit to spending their lives being politicians?
    Remove money as the limiting factor to running for office.

  • That would enable more people, although I think most of the relatively sane ones will still have absolutely zero interest in shoveling the bullshit that comes with the job.

    One thing that would be great would be the ability to easily find and watch a couple of hour-long interviews with each of the candidates. I feel that people can't help but expose themselves in that setting, far more than in debates and speeches. Those interviews are readily available on the presidential level, but it gets much more tricky to find them at the level of house races.
  • edited May 2013
    I'd be attempting to run for higher office if money was not a factor.
    Post edited by Cremlian on
  • I'm not old enough to run for president yet. I only recently became old enough to run for the senate.
  • I am old enough to run for president. However, there is way too much bullshit involved that I don't ever want to deal with it. I remember one NPR commentator calling the presidential election process a "freak show," and he's right. Even if you are squeaky clean, people on your opposite side, no matter what side that may be, will be coming up with dirt, legitimate or otherwise, to use against you. No thanks.
  • States can't legally secede, so that isn't technically an option. ;^)
    I'm sick of people saying this, because it's not practical. If you're going to secede, do you really care if it's legal or not? Rebels don't traditionally give a damn. It wasn't legal in 1861, but SC didn't give a damn. People are still trying to get away with nullification, and it's never worked.

    That being said, I'm not stupid enough to think that any of this would happen.
  • Yea the reason people want a legal way to secede Greg is they don't want to be declared war on the moment they do.
  • It might not be a bad idea to split the US into several nations. Discuss.
  • Say, 50 quasi-independent jurisdictions, all subordinate to the federal government?

    Seriously though, I'm not sure what splitting would improve. I can't imagine if say, Mississippi got kicked out of the US that Mississippians would be better off.
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