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  • Batou's old unit, the JGSDF Rangers.
    Don't you love it when they are up against the rangers team sent by the government at one point, and they recognize Batou from his eye implants? God I love that show.
  • House passes anti-abortion bill.
    The legislation would eliminate tax deductions for employer-provided health insurance plans that cover abortion, effectively raising costs for businesses that offer abortion-inclusive health care to employees. It could also deny Medicaid-based abortion care to women even if their health may be harmed by carrying the pregnancy to term.

    . . .

    The measure maintains exemptions for cases of rape, incest and when the mother's life is in danger. But a committee report left open the possibility that the legislation could deny federally-subsidized abortion in instances of statutory rape.
    Of course, this has no chance of surviving the Senate or Obama's VetoHammer, but this is what these fuckers want to do and we all should hold no illusions that something like this WILL pass if the Senate and White House fall into republican hands.
  • White House
    Luckily, this is at least safe for four more years after the election.


  • Ron Paul doesn't know how long DNA testing can take.
  • In other news, the republican governor of Texas had this to say after the denial of federal aid for wildfire related costs:
    "I am dismayed that this administration has denied Texans the much needed assistance they deserve. It is not only the obligation of the federal government, but its responsibility under law to help its citizens in times of emergency," Governor Rick Perry said in response to FEMA’s outright denial of a Major Disaster Declaration for Texas.
    Source.

    Now, I'm sorry about the wildfires and their related costs, but I have to laugh at the guv's statement regarding the responsibility of the federal government. I though the republicans hate everything to do with government. Don't they say that private industry always wins over government? Don't they want to slash spending on just about every social program? Don't they want to, as Grover Norquist put it so succinctly, weaken federal government to the point where it can be "drowned in a bathtub"? Yes.

    It's just kind of interesting that they hate government and constantly talk up how government fails, but when something happens, they're the first with their hands out. "Keep the Federal Government out of Medicare", and all that.
  • Ron Paul doesn't know how long DNA testing can take.
    Yes, but in all fairness, Ron Paul shot be fucking well tied to a urinal and shot.
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    So I forced myself to watch the whole Ron Paul interview and it can be summed up as:

    War on Terror is bad because it is expensive.

    The President might be lying about Osama bin Laden being dead because governments lie all the time about everything. And they are expensive.

    Ron Paul is the classic example of a broken clock being "right" twice a day. He's against war and skeptical the justifications of expanded of government power but he's only against those things because he's against any government doing anything ever. He also thinks that churches should run schools, that the market should set the price for medical treatment and racism is a matter of personal choice.

    And seriously, those bookends that the REVOLUTION put on that video make them look CRAZY.
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  • that the market should set the price for medical treatment
    Yeah, Allow me to sum up Ron Paul's fiscal policy with one small image.

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  • that the market should set the price for medical treatment
    It's fucking expensive.
  • edited May 2011
    If the market truly set the price for medical treatment; that is, if the best doctors did what they do for money alone and not for the simple desire to help your fellow man, medical fees would be even more astronomical than they are now. An infinitesimal amount of people are qualified to run a catheter into your brain and stop you from dying mid-aneurysm. Most people would give everything not to die. And that's why Ron Paul is fucking insane, and why it's a good thing medicine is, by and large, a profession of compassionate individuals. A few bad apples exist, but it's mostly good.
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  • edited May 2011
    Simple solution (that people will probably shoot full of holes). No medical service provider may be profit. They must all be non-profit organizations. They can make a lot of money, they just can't make profit. That includes hospitals, doctors, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, etc.
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  • Hahahahaha, fuck that. A billion better things I could be doing with my education than taking back-breaking loans and never being able to pay them back. Don't get me wrong, I'm going into the field to help people, but even though money isn't everything, it is something. To enter the profession, you shoulder a huge amount of time and monetary debt that you have to pay later, and that's all done by becoming a specialist in a field very few others can lay claim to. Medical care is expensive for a very, very good reason: it costs a lot of money to make a doctor that can do his or her job properly, and even more to outfit them with the tools necessary to do so. It's just like how you talk about the specialists being viewed as wizards. Ask 99% what a Whipple is, how it's performed, the required personnel, and the methods and tools used to optimize it, and they'll probably stare at you like you're speaking gibberish. Ask them what course of treatment they'd recommend for a given complex of symptoms, and you'll get the same response. The inside of the human body is exactly like the internal workings of a PC. Everyone (literally everyone) uses them, but almost no one truly understands how the stuff under the surface works. And there should be a profit there. Expertise is to be rewarded.

    All the life-saving drugs that exist today? They exist because investors footed billions for R&D. The MRI that can find brain cancer? Same deal. The gamma knife that will kill the tumor without any surgery? You guessed it.

    If medicine shouldn't be for-profit, neither should any other profession. People need electricity, people need water, people need food, people need books, people need data. Try to make all those things NFP. See what happens.
  • I am for Scot's idea. I mean it would work if everyone that wants to be a doctor, nurse, etc would get a free ride for their education as long as they are really worth it.
    This reminds me, when I grow up I want to be like this dude!
  • If medicine shouldn't be for-profit, neither should any other profession. People need electricity, people need water, people need food, people need books, people need data. Try to make all those things NFP. See what happens.
    "The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity."

    ~Captain Jean-Luc Picard
  • edited May 2011
    If medicine shouldn't be for-profit, neither should any other profession. People need electricity, people need water, people need food, people need books, people need data. Try to make all those things NFP. See what happens.
    "The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity."

    ~Captain Jean-Luc Picard
    We're not post-scarcity yet. When we have molecular dis/assemblers, that'll work. We'd also need to advance a couple Kardashev levels.
    I am for Scot's idea. I mean it would work if everyone that wants to be a doctor, nurse, etc would get a free ride for their education as long as they are really worth it.
    This reminds me, when I grow up I want to be like this dude!
    No, it wouldn't. Four years of undergrad + four years of medical school + 4-8 years of residency and internships? A lot of people I know who want to be doctors are opting to be PAs instead because it cuts down on their schooling by almost 10 years. But then, people aren't specializing, so you start running out of people in really critical specialties. People are already attempting to subsidize specializations to alleviate this, and guess what? It's not working worth a good goddamn. People want to live their lives, and a lot of them aren't built for medicine. You can work 120 hours a week as a resident; even if you pay people's bills, it doesn't mean that they can hack it. I know people who love medicine and had the grades to be doctors and completely changed their courses because they couldn't take the workload in undergrad.

    You can't arbitrarily decide that one of the most important professions on earth should be not-for-profit without knowing the system.
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  • edited May 2011
    Jonas Salk
    BOOO LIES AT THE PATENT OFFICE /Fairly Odd Parents
    Post edited by Sail on
  • Please note that I don't plan on patenting anything I invent that helps people. I just believe in equitable compensation.
  • If medicine shouldn't be for-profit, neither should any other profession. People need electricity, people need water, people need food, people need books, people need data. Try to make all those things NFP. See what happens.
    "The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity."

    ~Captain Jean-Luc Picard
    I counter with the thirteenth Farengi Rule of Acquisition: Anything worth doing is worth doing for money.
  • Some ideas for improving things without completely removing profit motive.

    1. a more restrictions on what constitutes a novel drug
    2. all drugs made public domain after 10 years so generics can be made
    3. an actual regulatory body instead of the current rubber stamp system

    I also think it would be interesting if the US or even the UN put huge bounties (like in the billions) on cures that could be made immediately public domain.
  • I counter with the thirteenth Farengi Rule of Acquisition: Anything worth doing is worth doing for money.
    Way to spell Ferengi wrong Star Trek Pro. :P

    You must note the 4th stage of Acquisition: Obsession: A compulsive or irrational preoccupation … "Precious!" So yeah, you basically are Gollum in a nutshell.
  • You still get paid if you are a doctor. The organization just has to follow the rules of non-profit organizations. Plenty of people work full-time for non-profits and get salaries and live.
  • Some ideas for improving things without completely removing profit motive.

    1. a more restrictions on what constitutes a novel drug
    2. all drugs made public domain after 10 years so generics can be made
    3. an actual regulatory body instead of the current rubber stamp system

    I also think it would be interesting if the US or even the UN put huge bounties (like in the billions) on cures that could be made immediately public domain.
    THIS THIS THIS THIS.
  • You still get paid if you are a doctor. The organization just has to follow the rules of non-profit organizations. Plenty of people work full-time for non-profits and get salaries and live.
    Yeah, I worked in a couple of non-profit (GMA, ATCC) and they are doing pretty well for themselves. Many of them have 3 weeks vacation, 12 days sick leave, and all the federal holidays paid (sometimes, they get half days on eastern and other religious holiday), and many of them live in Viena or Arlignton (If you do not live in Virginia, does are pretty expensive places to live in).

    Also regarding the schooling time, if you really want to be something, or achieve something, time should not matter. Well, at least that is my opinion. You know, it takes time to be awesome :D
  • edited May 2011
    It isn't moral advice to tell someone to lock a firearm, it's safety advice. This is just a reason for me not to practice in Florida; they're going to end up driving away doctors who actually care about their patients.
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  • Why do doctors need to ask about gun safety?
  • Why do doctors need to ask about gun safety?
    "Hey doctor, I have this bullet in my leg, could you take it off, or something."
  • It's part of standard practice. Pediatricians work very, very closely with DCFS (for obvious reasons), and there's a sort of "New Infant Checklist" that they run down with all new parents. Stuff like "Have you moved all the chemicals out from under the sink?" and "Have you put a gate on any staircases?" or "If you have a pool, is it locked?" It's just a basic checklist to ensure that parents minimize the need to bring their baby to the doctor for avoidable reasons, to educate the parents a little bit, and to explain how babies and toddlers are capable of really hurting themselves in various ways -- gun safety just follows for that. There's no anti-gun agenda; the docs just want to keep babies safe. That's all. There might as well be an anti-pool or anti-Comet Abrasive Cleaner agenda if you're going to say that anticipatory guidance is somehow political.
  • Why do doctors need to ask about gun safety?
    In the article they mention that way the bill is written, doctors would be allowed to ask about guns in the case of a demonstrably suicidal kid but it would be illegal to ask about gun ownership if the kid is being bullied and the doctor is concerned that he might take a gun to school.
  • taking back-breaking loans and never being able to pay them back.
    So I found out about this thing when I was helping Nuri not panic about paying for law school.

    There's this federal program for law school grads, for repaying certain federal student loans. You can opt for an income-contingent repayment plan that's very generous in its payments. If you continue making your payments for 25 years, whatever debt you have remaining is cancelled.

    However, if you work for any government or - I believe - non-profit legal organization, your debt is cancelled after 10 years. All of it.

    So why don't we have something like that for medical school?
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