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  • edited December 2009
    Gotcha, I however pretty much tell anyone, anything about myself... Maybe that's why I make friends easily...

    You see a similar thing going on with kids who hide atheism/homosexulaity/etc. from their parents. They're often worried that their parents will disown them, or some such. I think it's obvious that a parent who would do such a thing doesn't truly love their child unconditionally, so fuck 'em.
    similar but that's kinda a bad example because usually the kid has some sort of vested interest in keeping their parents happy with them and not rocking the boat in regards of things not related to whether they like each other. Actually though that sorta works with relationships, sometimes outside forces cause you to hide things from your SO. For example, lets say your best friend told you that he hated your girlfriend. Do you go and tell your SO that your close friend hates her?... Probably not.
    I know some FRC people...
    That comment wasn't meant to exclude you, just to note that we were having the equivalent of a frontrowcrew in person debate on the forums.
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  • //is amused that the top 9 of 10 posters in this thread are all FRC, why do we argue relationships so much ;-p
    FTFY. It's because most of us have strong opinions and/or desires to get at the underlying information. The best way for all that stuff to come out is generally to discuss (or argue if you like) it with other intelligent people. Also, who doesn't like to argue? Freakin' weirdos, that's who. ;P
  • edited December 2009
    That being said, if someone is a real friend, you're not going to go out of your way to hide some part of yourself from them.
    Well, unless they specifically request you not talk about some aspect of your life with them. Most of the time, I'm OK with requests like that. If a good friend doesn't like hearing about, I don't know, the 200 kittens I had to euthanize at the animal shelter, they can still be a good friend. They're just expressing their limits of comfort to you.
    If you're going to marry someone, you are going to be spending the majority of your remaining life with them. They are going to be the single most important person in your life besides yourself. If you aren't comfortable telling them anything, or them telling you anything, that's a pretty serious problem. Marrying such a person would be a big mistake.
    Very very very true.

    EDIT:
    That comment wasn't meant to exclude you, just to note that we were having the equivalent of a frontrowcrew in person debate on the forums.
    Well, these ARE the Front Row Crew Forums, after all. We own this joint.
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  • edited December 2009
    Well, unless they specifically request you not talk about some aspect of your life with them. Most of the time, I'm OK with requests like that. If a good friend doesn't like hearing about, I don't know, the 200 kittens I had to euthanize at the animal shelter, they can still be a good friend. They're just expressing their limits of comfort to you.
    ScoJo rabbit torture! He makes their ears fall off and makes them have retarded babies!
    edit: Well, he doesn't, he just watches and writes it down. But now he is doing computers for rabbit torture purposes! Hooray!
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  • If you're going to marry someone, you are going to be spending the majority of your remaining life with them. They are going to be the single most important person in your life besides yourself. If you aren't comfortable telling them anything, or them telling you anything, that's a pretty serious problem. Marrying such a person would be a big mistake.
    Very very very true.
    Seconded.
  • That comment wasn't meant to exclude you, just to note that we were having the equivalent of a frontrowcrew in person debate on the forums.
    Well, these ARE the Front Row Crew Forums, after all. We own this joint.
    Not once we start the revolution.
  • similar but that's kinda a bad example because usually the kid has some sort of vested interest in keeping their parents happy with them and not rocking the boat in regards of things not related to whether they like each other. Actually though that sorta works with relationships, sometimes outside forces cause you to hide things from your SO. For example, lets say your best friend told you that he hated your girlfriend. Do you go and tell your SO that your close friend hates her?... Probably not.
    Well, I think it's actually a good example for that very reason. These kids will hide these things from their parents in order to not rock the boat. The same goes with these spouses who have some interest in keeping the other one happy, be it sex, money, kids, whatever.

    Also, if you aren't close enough to your girlfriend to tell her that your friend doesn't like her, that's not so great. A girlfriend or boyfriend is nominally someone who is "trying out" for the position of wife/husband. If you can't discuss something like that with them, can you really marry them? If it's just a fling, or whatever, then it doesn't matter if your friends don't like the person, because you don't expect them to be around long anyways.
  • For example, lets say your best friend told you that he hated your girlfriend. Do you go and tell your SO that your close friend hates her?... Probably not.
    Depends on the situation and how much friction it was likely to cause, but most likely, I would say something. I won't make that decision for another couple, but if someone says, "Man, Pete, I really hate your girlfriend," I'll probably tell that person to go fuck themselves and then let my girlfriend know what was said.
  • I am not scared of math (or really any subject matter), though the math contained may be a bit beyond my current knowledge set
    Don't worry too much, the math itself isn't that hard, it's more that the jargon can be pretty hard to get into, and that connecting the mathematical concepts with physical reality can be tricky.
  • edited December 2009
    For example, lets say your best friend told you that he hated your girlfriend. Do you go and tell your SO that your close friend hates her?... Probably not.
    Depends on the situation and how much friction it was likely to cause, but most likely, I would say something. I won't make that decision for another couple, but if someone says, "Man, Pete, I really hate your girlfriend," I'll probably tell that person to go fuck themselves and then let my girlfriend know what was said.
    I slightly disagree. If telling the SO will only hurt them and not offer any opportunity to rectify the rift, then why give them useless, hurtful information. If telling the SO would provide for a possibility to rectify the situation, then it would be worthwhile. Most importantly, couples, friends, and people in general need to think not only about what they say, but how they say it. In this particular example, telling the SO that "So-and-so hates you" doesn't seem all that constructive and would likely only wound the person and/or create a greater rift.
    I am not scared of math (or really any subject matter), though the math contained may be a bit beyond my current knowledge set
    Don't worry too much, the math itself isn'tthathard, it's more that the jargon can be pretty hard to get into, and that connecting the mathematical concepts with physical reality can be tricky.
    Math is just another, possibly truer, language for expressing reality. I've never had much of a problem with it.
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  • edited December 2009
    On the other hand, it's a great way to dump someone!

    "So-and-so thinks you're a bitch. I have to agree."

    EDIT: Thought I'd green that out, just in case. ^_~
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  • I gotta tell you, I've known times where the FRC has hid things from each other... like when I started to play WOW and I started asking around and found that a few of the crew were secretly playing WOW at the time.
  • Um no...the kids are not afraid of "rocking the boat." They are afraid of being punished, kicked out, and/or disowned...None of which they have the power to deal with. If a guy gets kicked out by his girlfriend, he can generally get another place. When you're a kid, you don't have the means to take care of yourself, and there are laws preventing you from doing it unless you are emancipated. Anyone who has reached the age of majority (sans incompetence) should have the ability to eke out a living, so they should not be afraid of such things. You shouldn't depend on your spouse to support you to such an extent that you lose the ability to care for yourself. What happens if they suddenly die?

    However, if a kid's parents die and they have no where else to go, the state takes care of them (nominally), because they haven't the education or means to take care of themselves. If a dude's wife dies and he doesn't know how to manage finances or food, the state doesn't have the responsibility to care for him. He's probably afraid to bring up something that might make her leave him in a similar situation. There is a difference between the kids/parents and the adults/spouses.
  • I completely agree about the friends thing.

    I tell my BF everything because I consider him my best friend. I understand the concept of talking to someone else first if you are having problems, etc, especially if you are in a new relationship. However, at this point in my relationship, I know talking to someone else won't do any good because they don't know my BF like I do. I know him well enough to be comfortable discussing anything with him, and I don't have to be afraid of doing anything stupid- and if I do, he loves me anyway. :)
    If a good friend doesn't like hearing about, I don't know, the 200 kittens I had to euthanize at the animal shelter, they can still be a good friend.
    Wh... WHAT? I could never befriend such a person. *sniffle*
  • I gotta tell you, I've known times where the FRC has hid things from each other... like when I started to play WOW and I started asking around and found that a few of the crew were secretly playing WOW at the time.
    Don't let those that seek to shame you actually make you feel shame. You know that many in the FRC get on their high horse about certain subjects, but that doesn't mean you need to kowtow or cater to them.
  • I slightly disagree. If telling the SO will only hurt them and not offer any opportunity to rectify the rift, then why give them useless, hurtful information. If telling the SO would provide for a possibility to rectify the situation, then it would be worthwhile. Most importantly, couples, friends, and people in general need to think not only about what they say, but how they say it. In this particular example, telling the SO that "So-and-so hates you" doesn't seem all that constructive and would likely only wound the person and/or create a greater rift.
    I concur. That's why I caveated that with "probably." There may also be times when the goal is to create a permanent rift; if it's something major, telling your SO can be a call to say, "Hey, we should deal with this or stop associating with this person." Just telling your SO that someone said her hair looked bad (or some other generally non-major thing) is just causing trouble unnecessarily.
  • This video is utter, utter Randyness. Dimensions just don't work that way.
    It's an interesting what-if about time, but I only watched up the 5th dimension. It might get totally bat-shit crazy after that.
    It sure does, almost hilariously so.
    Thanks for clearing that up. Sagan is definitely more reliable than random Canadian man.
  • This video is utter, utter Randyness. Dimensions just don't work that way.
    It's an interesting what-if about time, but I only watched up the 5th dimension. It might get totally bat-shit crazy after that.
    It sure does, almost hilariously so.
    Thanks for clearing that up. Sagan is definitely more reliable than random Canadian man.
    Sagan is more reliable than most men in general.
  • Sagan is more reliable than most men in general.
    The kind of guy you'd take home to meet your parents.
  • Sagan is more reliable than most men in general.
    The kind of guy you'd take home to meet your parents.
    Unlike Feynman who will just cause your parents to shake their heads and tell you that you can do better.
  • RymRym
    edited December 2009
    @ .*MacRoss:

    All of Sagan's Cosmos is watchable on the Netflix On Demand service. I highly, highly recommend it for your purposes.

    For more general physics (Newtonian stuff, electromagnetics, day-to-day, human scale things), HowStuffWorks actually has a good number of videos and discussions. If you're not familiar, look into electricity and charge in some depth. It's neat stuff, and the fact that charge is quantized (forget quarks) makes the math much less scary and more intuitive than some other things. Voltage and Amperage have some elegant analogies that make them fairly easy to grok. The practical applications are also readily apparent and obvious in hindsight, too. Once you understand the basics of charge, for example, then the way an AC transformer works and how it's constructed is profoundly intuitive.
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  • @ Rym: I've watched the Sagan videos, they are great. I will definitely check out How Stuff Works in additions to picking up the texts recommended above. Thanks!
  • All of Sagan'sCosmosis watchable on the Netflix On Demand service. I highly, highly recommend it for your purposes.
    Seriously?!? Oh man, I know what I'm doing tonight. ^_^
  • I've been watching Cosmos from a torrent. I'm up to part 9 now.
  • RymRym
    edited December 2009
    I will definitely check out How Stuff Works in additions to picking up the texts recommended above.
    The How Stuff Works animations are great. I'll admit to having used them frequently, especially back when I was learning more about cars. It's amazing how a few minutes of annotated animation can suddenly make an entire book's worth of math and diagrams understandable.

    Of course, nothing has beat this gem in my eyes. All tutorials should strive to be this good.
    Post edited by Rym on
  • Of course, nothing has beatthis gemin my eyes.
    The hilarious bit is when they talk about how they designed the input shaft on the bottom because no one would ever buy a car with a hump in the center. It is a good design though, it allows my Camaro to have an incredibly low slung suspension.
  • Sagan is more reliable than most men in general.
    The kind of guy you'd take home to meet your parents.
    Unlike Feynman who will just cause your parents to shake their heads and tell you that you can do better.
    "You just ask them?"

    Feynman is one of my heroes, despite his womanizing. His creativity and fun nature embody all I want to have when I am a scientist. He's also half of the reason that I maintain an intense interest in djembe. The other half is that djembe is amazing.
  • All of Sagan'sCosmosis watchable on the Netflix On Demand service. I highly, highly recommend it for your purposes.
    Seriously?!? Oh man, I know what I'm doing tonight. ^_^
    I'm glad Rym pointed this out, as I'd never seen them, so I watched the whole thing over my break. Really great stuff! Amazing how a lot of the information is still relevant, and I learned a lot about many of the unsung heroes of science and history. It is a bit heavy handed on certain topics, and I honestly don't care about astronomy in general, but I still wish there were more shows like this.
  • Heterosexual guys are basically cursed by their own biology to have no choice but to pursue women and their incredibly boring, annoying and emotionally unstable presence.
  • Heterosexual guys are basically cursed by their own biology to have no choice but to pursue women and their incredibly boring, annoying and emotionally unstable presence.
    Uh. What? Bitter, much?
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