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Posted By: ChurbaName one Older art (20th century or before) that isn't 3/4 bullshit that you never use, and if you say BJJ, I'll call you a filthy liar, because I've seen the ceremonial bullshit and Impractical Sport competition moves in that just as much as anything else.What if I were to just say that older arts are bullshit? Anyway, judo predates the 20th century, and it would fit my definition of "not bullshit". Also, muay thai, boxing, and wrestling. I'm not claiming that any of these arts are sufficient in and of themselves for any kind of conflict you might find yourself in, or that all of their techniques are useful in most situations -- only that hard sparring and full-contact competition has boiled all the hoodoo out of them, and you're left only with techniques that actually work against trained, fully-resisting opponents.