Anyhow, I gotta agree with Rym, most people are going to just buy the new X-box One or PS4 solely on whether it has a game they want or some feature for their TV they don't have.
As a PC guy anyway, for the price of these consoles, I could build a new PC, put my old one next to the TV and have access to every game ever. So the consoles don't have much appeal.. Still thinking of getting a Wii U though.
Anyhow, I gotta agree with Rym, most people are going to just buy the new X-box One or PS4 solely on whether it has a game they want or some feature for their TV they don't have.
Halos, Forzas, Call of Duties will buy XBox one for that and nothing else. PS4s will buy for their JRPGs, Gran Turismos, and such. Whichever one they buy, they will buy all the cross-platform games for that. That's how it always goes. I just wonder if XBox will also sell a bunch of consoles to people purely for home entertainment. Lots of people bought PS2/PS3 just for DVD/Blu-Ray player. Then they hope to get some cash if those people buy a game or three.
Why would a company with shareholders ever take any action that did not increase shareholder value?
I don't see how checking in every 24 hours, to verify your game is genuinely yours, is in the interest of the shareholders.
It only demonstrates mistrust between consumer and company.
Mistrust like that doesn't even register for the average gamer.
The average gamer is likely to be a child or basically someone who doesn't do there research, so are reliant on someone else who knows better, like a parent for example.
And there are a fair few gamer parents who are likely to be displeased by these DRM policies.
24 hour check in is quite arbitrary, why check in at all, as long as you've verified once on that console, it should just disallow any further authorisation on other consoles while it's authorised on the current one.
Instead of periodic checks to makes sure you haven't just installed the same disc on a million different consoles.
If anything, they should allow that. If they print 1 disc that everyone in the world has to share, but charge them for license (access to the game), why does that not work?
Instead of 1 disc, how about a download station at a retailers, you can take your flash drive/ hdd to any retailer, download free of charge. And get billed for the license when you install it onto the console.
The purpose of the disc for some people, is the disc is a coin. Why not just have a system that can turn the license into a coin.
The same way they can authorise your access they can de-authorise it and give it to someone else.
Games literally don't matter for this console. If you like the community (or brand recognition) you'll get an Xbox. I think anyone would be hard pressed to name 5 exclusives on the Xbox in the last two, or even three, years.
Games literally don't matter for this console. If you like the community (or brand recognition) you'll get an Xbox. I think anyone would be hard pressed to name 5 exclusives on the Xbox in the last two, or even three, years.
Well, consider this. When a non-exclusive game comes out, which platform do you want it on? Super Street Fighter IV is on all the platforms, even Steam, but the XBox is really where it counts. The online players are all on XBL.
Well, consider this. When a non-exclusive game comes out, which platform do you want it on? Super Street Fighter IV is on all the platforms, even Steam, but the XBox is really where it counts. The online players are all on XBL.
Even that depends. Not sure about it, but I think that in Europe fighting game scene is stronger in PS3. Or maybe it's just Guilty Gear and Blaz Blue crowd, while Street Fighter is in Xbox.
They were, but if the community moves somewhere else then that's the place to be. Also many of my hardcore fighter friends, and their friends, actually play PS3. But they also don't enjoy playing online because any sort of network lag is unacceptable. So that might be a poor demographic.
The PC Street Fighter community actually wasn't that bad.
Well, consider this. When a non-exclusive game comes out, which platform do you want it on? Super Street Fighter IV is on all the platforms, even Steam, but the XBox is really where it counts. The online players are all on XBL.
Even that depends. Not sure about it, but I think that in Europe fighting game scene is stronger in PS3. Or maybe it's just Guilty Gear and Blaz Blue crowd, while Street Fighter is in Xbox.
Europe in general is very dedicated to the Playstation actually, as is Japan of course. Really the only place that Xbox sells at all is in the US. Which is why if it doesn't sell here then they might have a bad generation.
Yeah I certainly don't want to rain it over anybody. My best friend in high school used to point out every chance he got that PC was better and yeah, I had agreed that it was, but at the time it was cheaper and easier for me to just own a console. It was easier to convince my parents about getting me a console. No amount of arguing convinced them that the PC I had was inadequate for playing games and neither did they comprehend what I was telling them for the most part. By the time I had a job in college where I was making enough money to buy a high end PC and I told my parents I was buying one, they still harassed me about it, even when it was my own money! Not that I would let their condescension stop me but from a generation that doesn't really understand computers beyond work related business it's a frustrating experience. Thus having an Xbox made things simpler, and at the time I didn't really care because 95% of my friends had an Xbox too.
The funniest part about the whole "Glorious PC Master Race" thing is that Yahtzee intended it 100% as a satire of elitist PC gamers who carry on like that - and then exactly zero percent of people noted it as such, and took it absolutely seriously. The dude plays games across every platform, by choice.
The funniest part about the whole "Glorious PC Master Race" thing is that Yahtzee intended it 100% as a satire of elitist PC gamers who carry on like that - and then exactly zero percent of people noted it as such, and took it absolutely seriously. The dude plays games across every platform, by choice.
I use it just to be humorously above the Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony Debate. That and it's true :-p
The funniest part about the whole "Glorious PC Master Race" thing is that Yahtzee intended it 100% as a satire of elitist PC gamers who carry on like that - and then exactly zero percent of people noted it as such, and took it absolutely seriously. The dude plays games across every platform, by choice.
Well, that's internet in general. But it's rooted a little too deeply in truth to scoff.
Well, that's internet in general. But it's rooted a little too deeply in truth to scoff.
Either I'm missing your sarcasm, or you're missing precisely what he's satirizing. Or maybe it's both, and shit is just getting REAL crazy.
Hey, I posted it for humor. *Shrug* *shakes the wasps nest*
And I just said it because I find it amusing, and unlike most of these things, even when you tell people, they don't change behavior one iota, meaning I still get my fun.
What I mean is I could see how people would misconstrue the satire with the way it's presented.
Well, yeah - with any given satirical work, there's people who don't realize it's satire. I've come across people who absolutely think "A modest proposal" was an actual, serious proposal.* What surprises me is the sheer number of people who simply don't at all realize that it's satire - I mean, maybe ten percent, fifteen percent, sure. I'd even find a quarter believable, but damned near 100% of people I encounter don't realize that it's satire.
Wait a minute... If Kinect is always on, then the microphone can always hear what I'm saying. If the mic can always hear what I'm saying, then Microsoft can always hear what I'm saying. If Microsoft can always hear what I'm saying, then PRISM can always hear what I'm saying. QED, the XBox One is a one way NSA hotline!
It was more that people were so pissed at Xbone/Microsoft. MS clearly didn't listen or even consider their customers and just tried to push everything one step closer to eliminating the right of first sale.
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As a PC guy anyway, for the price of these consoles, I could build a new PC, put my old one next to the TV and have access to every game ever. So the consoles don't have much appeal.. Still thinking of getting a Wii U though.
And there are a fair few gamer parents who are likely to be displeased by these DRM policies.
Instead of periodic checks to makes sure you haven't just installed the same disc on a million different consoles.
If anything, they should allow that. If they print 1 disc that everyone in the world has to share, but charge them for license (access to the game), why does that not work?
Instead of 1 disc, how about a download station at a retailers, you can take your flash drive/ hdd to any retailer, download free of charge. And get billed for the license when you install it onto the console.
The purpose of the disc for some people, is the disc is a coin. Why not just have a system that can turn the license into a coin.
The same way they can authorise your access they can de-authorise it and give it to someone else.
The PC Street Fighter community actually wasn't that bad.
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Day One Edition today.
What's included:
Xbox One console
Kinect sensor
Commemorative controller
Exclusive achievement
HDMI Cable
any takers?
come on, y'all don't love achievements?
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