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Game of Thrones (A Song of Ice & Fire)
I figure this topic deserves it's own thread to talk about the books and the TV series.
I'm seriously digging the series and am slowly but surely getting into the novels. After a 3 day bender of watching the first season I am hooked. I already read a lot of spoilers because I couldn't help myself.
I will say that I am beyond impressed with the TV series opening and the animation to that as well as the soundtrack. I always find myself trying to catch all the details and of course the new things they add for some of the episodes.
Also here is a nice little behind the scenes of the visual effects. WARNING: it contains spoilers.
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And on a final note: WINTER IS COMING.
I'm seriously digging the series and am slowly but surely getting into the novels. After a 3 day bender of watching the first season I am hooked. I already read a lot of spoilers because I couldn't help myself.
I will say that I am beyond impressed with the TV series opening and the animation to that as well as the soundtrack. I always find myself trying to catch all the details and of course the new things they add for some of the episodes.
Also here is a nice little behind the scenes of the visual effects. WARNING: it contains spoilers.
xkptadiDABo
And on a final note: WINTER IS COMING.
Comments
Dave Navarro dies.
Also Tyrion Lannister & Arya Stark are my favorite characters so far. I like what's going on with Danerys, but don't necessarily think her overall character is great.
I Daenerys and Jon Snow are totally gunna meet up at some point and fight off the zombies together to save the realm. (Fire + Ice)!
And rule together and make awesome babies.
After having seen the TV show now, I'd say the character it improves the most is Littlefinger, which is warranted after you realize how integral he is to the show's central conflict.
SPOILARZ: After his dreams of wedding and bedding Cateyn Tully (now Stark) were crushed, he settled for pining after her whacko sister, Lyssa. While the Lannisters are made to look like the ultimate evil, the death of the king's hand, Jon Arryn, was actually because Littlefinger convinced Lyssa to poison her own husband!
Also your prediction is awesome. I approve.
@Matt that wouldn't be far fetched from all the sinister things that happen in that damn series. I'm a bit on the opposite. I kinda like how I watched the series and now I'm getting into the books. It helps with the imagination a bit.
I think they did a great job with creating the Westeros and its many kingdoms. I was pretty impressed by it all.
About things not looking like things... I started reading the books about halfway through the season, so I pretty much see everything as in the show. Except for Tyrion. As awesome as Peter Dinklage is, Tyrion is described way different, so my brain sees him as this ugly pirate-looking dwarf instead.
SPOLIARZ!11!: When the show catches up to the epic battle where Tyrion's face gets p0wned, I wonder if they will go all out and make the scar really epic and ugly, no nose and everything. I bet they make it a sexy manly scar instead.
Here's my theory on Jon Snow (well, not really mine, but a prevailing internet theory): One of the big remaining untouched secrets of the book is the mystery of Jon Snow's lineage. Who is his mother, and is it significant? It probably is since it's been danced around so much. The big theory is that he's half Stark, half Targaryen. It wouldn't be unheard of for him to get it on with Danny if that is the case, since the Targaryens always inter-breed to keep the blood lines clean.
The theory is hard to come by from just watching the show, but it is based on evidence presented almost entirely in the first book, which contains flashback after flashback to Robert's rebellion against the Targaryens. It's well established that Prine Rhaegar lusted after ned Starks's now-deceased sister, Lyanna, but that he wound up in a political marriage with Elia of Dorne. Why then, in Ned Stark's fever dreams, does he have flashbacks to having to rescue his sister from a keep defended by two kingsguard knights? The only reason kingsguard would be there is if Lyanna was carrying Rhaegar's love bun, and she probably died due to birth complications. There's little other supporting details here or there but I won't go any further. Just read/listen to the books and keep your eyes out for these little clues! It could be a totally bogus theory but I think it makes sense, aside from Jon not looking ANYTHING like a Targaryen.
Like I said, predicting anything in these books is folly, but one must predict anyway...
I think its fairly obvious his mom is important, and I think somewhere it mentioned she was highborn? I bet that's how in the end everyone gets over his bastardness, and are okay with him leaving the Night's Watch (if my earlier theory were to happen). But then again, many different characters seem to bring it up and say different things, like in the 5th book someone (forget who) specifically said she was a captain's daughter (or something along those lines) and that she and Ned were on a ship when they had their affair, and that this character was there so that's how he knew about it. So confusing. I always try to pay attention when they talk about her. Your (or the internet's) theory is interesting though. It does say Jon looks a whole lot like Ned though, so I think hes really his son. Although maybe Jon could've gotten those looks through Lyanna? Eh.
Oh, and during the ComicCon panel when someone asked if Kit knew who Jon's mom was, he was all coy about it, saying he didn't know, and then Lena raised her hand and looked all sly, or something like that, indicating that Cercei is his mom, or that's what everyone is getting out of that. WTF, I hope that's not true.
Torrent the audio books and just listen to them at 2x speed on ipod (or whatever device can do 2x)
Only slow it back to normal speed for the fight scenes or detailed politics. You can mow out about 1 book a fortnight like this. I wouldn't recommend 2x for all books, but this series almost NEEDS it...
By the way, it's called a Song of Ice and Fire, not fire and ice.
Second of all, concerning the theory about Jon Snow's parentage already mentioned by Matt:
HUGE Potential Spoilers:
Not only does Ned Stark have dreams about "rescuing" his sister from a keep, but there's a flashback to a tournament before the rebellion where Lyanna Stark gives her kerchief or "token of affection" to Rhaegar. The books don't come right out and say it, but they imply that Rhaegar did NOT rape her, like Robert thinks, but that they were very much in love with each other, but couldn't marry for political reasons. Additionally, in the first book, there's a lot of Ned flashing back to Lyanna saying "Promise me Ned" which is completely left out of the show. We are made to think that Ned promises to bring her body back to the crypts in Winterfell, when in fact the promise could have been to protect her infant son and hide his true identity. All the other Targaryen children, with the exception of Viserys and Daenerys were killed during the rebellion, and Lyanna probably didn't want the same thing to happen to her son. Even years later, Robert was willing to do almost anything to kill the last remaining Targaryen children. One more thing, is that in the first book, someone mentions that A) Arya reminds everyone of Lyanna when she was younger and
Jon doesn't look like a Targaryen beccause the Stark genes are more "potent" similarly to how Ned and Jon Arryn figured out that all of Cersei's children weren't Robert's because they were all blonde haired.
I'm about 2/3 done with the fifth book and I'm really enjoying it. I realize that it's been 11 years since I read a Jon, Tyrion, or Daenerys chapter and I forgot how much I liked their characters.
Spoilers: I love the way suddenly everyone wants to marry Daenerys in this book
Also, GoT RPG (spoils all of first book/season)
And A Dance with Dragons might hold the answer to Jon's parentage.
SPOILARZ: In one of the Davos chapters he is detained by a lord who claims that one of his daughters (or nieces maybe) helped smuggle Ned away from his foes and a quick relationship bloomed from there. On a side note, I was quite happy to be proved right when I told my wife that I thought Davos was still alive after it was thought he had been sacrificed.
Spoilers When I thought he was dead I got pretty excited that I wouldn't have to read any more of him.
Game of Thrones RPG video
Hilarious.
I may have to make this one time exception on my personal ban on all t-shirts that are black.