Let the record show that I want Palin to burn in each of the nine layers of Hell! I couldn't stand her answers in the debate. Most of the answers she made in the earlier parts of the debate all lead back to the energy crisis which just made her more incoherent than usual. She was so outclassed by Biden, that that's all she could sputter out seeing as that's all she knows. I was so upset at her answers that I gave up her watching an hour in. In my honest opinion, Sarah Palin is one of the biggest political ploys in history.
She didn't win... she just didn't look like a fool. She was a complete robot and was, in fact, a fool... she just didn't look like one to Joe Public. Don't say she won just because the standards of her performance were incredibly low, she preformed better than we thought she would, but that's a far cry from proclaiming victory.
But I suppose it was a 'win' for the republicans in the sense that she didn't completely screw over her ticket with McCain, which she could have if they hadn't prepared her as much as they did.
She obviously didn't know what they were talking about when they were discussing a "two state" solution and her deal about movong the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem is totally bizarre. I have to wonder whether she wants to do that because she thinks it would fulfill some sort of "end-times" prophecy.
I still can't get over her misconception of the duties and powers of the VP.
84% said she did better than they expected in the debate. Take that as you will.
The way I take it, the majority of people, Democrat AND Republican, were surprised that she could articulate her own name without getting confused. It's quite a thing to crushingly lose a debate and yet still be given the old "Wow! You did a lot better than we expected!" routine.
Of course, this is all moot. Polls show that, by and large, only Democrats and independents actually watch the debate anyway. Kerry won almost all of his debates, as did Al Gore. Fat lot of good it did them.
Biden's wife is a college professor. Palin called her a "school teacher" and said, "She'll have her reward in heaven" in a knowing way as though she were an elementary shool teacher or something. But - she's Biden's SECOND wife. His first wife died in that car crash along with a couple of his kids. Thoughtless much, Palin?
ZOMG!! In response to an e-mail in which someone quoted Palin, a co-worker asked "Who is Sarah Palin?" WTF?! How can someone be that ignorant?!!!
The same thing, sans email , happened today when I was asking if anyone in my Algebra II class saw the debate last night. This kid who sits in one of the four desks scrunched together (sort of in a squared shape) said he didn't know who Sarah Palin was. Everybody stopped doing their work and just stared at him for like 45 seconds.... in complete silence. I broke the silence by saying "How in God's name do you not know about Sarah Palin?!!" at which point everybody proceeded to laugh at him. By the way, I didn't care if he felt bad or not because he's basically an ignorant dick/poser and we don't like each other so.... meh.
What I'm about to post I could have posted in the Thing of the Day thread, but I thought it should go here in this topic due to it's relevancy to this post
This is a conversation between a few of my friends on Facebook (one of which is my brother) who talked about Obama, McCain, Palin, etc. The discussion itself starts with a profile update and utter insanity ensued. This asshole who keeps futilely arguing and making ridiculous (not to mention offensive) remarks, is exactly what's wrong with this country, why people like this allow people like Bush to win a second term, and how scared I am of the future should the election see McCain as the winner. The kids involved in this discussion are the following:
Mike: My brother, who combats against the dickwad Greg: The one who initiated the conversation but only made one comment and never came back. Alex: A friend of my brothers who is on his side (I know him but am not friends with him). Eric: The dickwad who sounds like a moron with these posts that shows him making untrue info and the like. CJ: Some kid who I've always thought was a jerk, but he chimed in against Eric and he might not be so bad now in my book.
Please excuse the bad grammar and punctuation, as it is not my fault and I don't want to spend the time to edit it.
The Feud
Greg: Greg laughs at Sarah Failin because I think she is mentally retarded.
Eric: maybe your retarted, becaus if you vote for Obama, taxes will go through the roof dumb ass!
Mike: lol eric if you vote for mccain then there wont be any roofs left in america for taxes to go thru.
Eric: GREG! ITS B.S. because they don't have any bad things to say about her! OPEN YOUR EYES, LOOK PAST THE B.S. and relieze that the Democrats DO NOT have a platform, it's all anti-Republican, thats it!
Alex: LoL where do you get that info Eric? how many times has he said taxes would only be raised for Americans making more than $250000 a year.
Eric: yeah, that hurts the middle class Alex. our family makes money in that range and we are not rich by any means! besides, Obama wants to give that money to PEOPLE IN AFRICA, WHY NOT THE HOMELESS HERE!
Mike:how do democrats not have a platform? shes inept plain and simple. she. knows. NOTHING. she thinks she can see russia from her house. thats her foreign policy. she has been mayor of um lets see..6000 people in a dead end town in a dead end state? shes governor or a total of about 700,000 people at most. there are are 8million people in NYC. maybe the mayor of NYC should run?
Alex: Eric watch McCain and Palin interviews. All Palin talks about is how much of a maverick she is, and all John McCain does is relate every single topic to war. How he does it I dont know
Eric: he did Mike, but he dropped out along time ago, smart one. what leadership does Obama have??! NOTHING! At least she has kept a town running in Alaska with not a lot of money compared to other states. Biden is a governor too so they have the same position of leadership. McCain has done so much more. yeah he was a rebel, but he changed his life after going into the Navy.
Alex: McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. The only thing he has been a 'maverick' about is things that don't even matter If he was really different like he says, if he really was 'takin shots from his own party' as Palin said, they wouldn't have nominated him. Listen to the interview with Katie Couric, Palin couldn't name a single example of McCains deregulation which she claims he is known for.
Mike: biden is a governor of a state that actually matters, sorry to break it to you but alaska isnt all that important. what has mccain done that so great? great he was in vietnam and was a POW but that doesnt mean your qualified to run a country. obama has alot more than mccain, and i think we were talking about palin btw. dont pull a palin on me and change the subject.
Eric: Alex, I have watched them, they back her into a conner and she doesnt know how to respond to it, so she tells the reporter what she has done.
Mike: lol let me list her responses: let me get back to you i dont know (change subject)
you really want that in a leadership position? you really think she is leader material?
Alex: Yea, they ask her damn important questions. Questions about subject she preaches so much about in bashing-Obama speeches, but can't actually survive in a 1 on 1. Why else wouldn't the McCain campaign give her more interviews.
Eric: haha, so you want a muslim to be in the office of the white house! he says that he is a christian, but he went to a muslim bording school as a kid! McCain was in teh NAVY!!!!! you have to be a leader to be in the NAVY he was not some peon on the ship!
Alex: Well now I know we've won the argument. Once someone pulls the Muslim argument you know they have nothing else to say
wow WAY TO BE PREJUDICE. let me update you on obama for you black haters out there :: RAISED BY SINGLE WHITE MOTHER MUSLIM FATHER NOT IN THE PICTURE. EVER. HIS GRANDMOTHER WAS RACIST BUT LOVED HIM MIDDLE-CLASS HIS WHOLE LIFE.
he worked his way up from shitcreek. theres a difference between leading troops and a nation. and whats so good about the NAVY!! is it his choice if he went to a muslim boarding school?? did he say mama send me to muslim boarding school please. i believe not.
Eric: IM NOT A RACIST, I could care less. its the truth. he is just way to sketchy. plus he DOESNT BELIEVE IN THIS COUNTRY! HE WONT EVEN PUT HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART FOR THE PLEDGE OR WERE AN AMERICAN FLAG PIN!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF PATRIOTISM IS THAT, ITS NOT WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU! HIS WIFE SAID THAT SHE WAS NOT PROUD OF THIS COUNTRY TIL HER HUSBAND WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE! GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!he learned they ways of a muslim, dont you remember the muslims saying that if they cannot destroy America from the outside, the country I love, that they will destroy it from with in! being in the Navy teaches you respect for otehrs and not to back talk, it teaches you to LEAD, IF YOU ARE A LEADER YOU CAN LEAD ANYTHING!
Mike: wow. not all muslims are terrorists rofl. that just takes the cake. where do you get this from? he wont wear flag pin, wont put hand over heart for pledge, his wifes statement? whats next? he practices polygamy? you crack me up specially your last line rofl. and not talking back, whats good about that? why is it bad to question authority? im pretty sure the founding fathers, OF THE COUNTRY YOU LOVE, would want us to question authority. they were rebels FYI. and he "learned the ways of a muslim"?? wtf does that mean? is there some secret muslim way we all are missing out on? if you really believe "IF YOU ARE A LEADER YOU CAN LEAD ANYTHING!" then you really know less than i thought.
CJ: eric shut up ur gay
Eric: this was stated in the begining of the elections. Mike you are a leader in life, that's your a facitilator in PA. ha, if you truely believe that you cant lead anything in your life, you NEVER will become anything Mike. once you learn the skill, it stays with you for life.
Mike: there are different types of leadership.. look at all the failed military commanders who have become political leaders, history is LITTERED with them. when did i ever say i cant lead anything in my life? i like how subject changes from palin to mccain to obama to attacking me dude cmon, atleast be somewhat professional.
Eric: im trying, im not attacking you, sorry if it sounded like that, i was infering. you just bring up subjects and i go off on them. I think we should just end this now, because it will just go on for days. sorry Greg.
-about 45 minutes later-
Eric: yeah, it makes you look like an ass, you tough i get it, go beat up some freshmen.
Well..... I think this argument speaks for itself, but I'm curious to hear everyone's input.
Comments
Wait. No. Foyer of Gracies, here we come!
This shall be great.
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If you paid attention to what she said, though...
But I suppose it was a 'win' for the republicans in the sense that she didn't completely screw over her ticket with McCain, which she could have if they hadn't prepared her as much as they did.
I still can't get over her misconception of the duties and powers of the VP.
The way I take it, the majority of people, Democrat AND Republican, were surprised that she could articulate her own name without getting confused. It's quite a thing to crushingly lose a debate and yet still be given the old "Wow! You did a lot better than we expected!" routine.
Of course, this is all moot. Polls show that, by and large, only Democrats and independents actually watch the debate anyway. Kerry won almost all of his debates, as did Al Gore. Fat lot of good it did them.
This is a conversation between a few of my friends on Facebook (one of which is my brother) who talked about Obama, McCain, Palin, etc. The discussion itself starts with a profile update and utter insanity ensued. This asshole who keeps futilely arguing and making ridiculous (not to mention offensive) remarks, is exactly what's wrong with this country, why people like this allow people like Bush to win a second term, and how scared I am of the future should the election see McCain as the winner. The kids involved in this discussion are the following:
Mike: My brother, who combats against the dickwad
Greg: The one who initiated the conversation but only made one comment and never came back.
Alex: A friend of my brothers who is on his side (I know him but am not friends with him).
Eric: The dickwad who sounds like a moron with these posts that shows him making untrue info and the like.
CJ: Some kid who I've always thought was a jerk, but he chimed in against Eric and he might not be so bad now in my book.
Please excuse the bad grammar and punctuation, as it is not my fault and I don't want to spend the time to edit it.
The Feud
Greg: Greg laughs at Sarah Failin because I think she is mentally retarded.
Eric: maybe your retarted, becaus if you vote for Obama, taxes will go through the roof dumb ass!
Greg: just look at this: http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm
Mike: lol eric if you vote for mccain then there wont be any roofs left in america for taxes to go thru.
Eric: GREG! ITS B.S. because they don't have any bad things to say about her! OPEN YOUR EYES, LOOK PAST THE B.S. and relieze that the Democrats DO NOT have a platform, it's all anti-Republican, thats it!
Alex: LoL where do you get that info Eric? how many times has he said taxes would only be raised for Americans making more than $250000 a year.
Eric: yeah, that hurts the middle class Alex. our family makes money in that range and we are not rich by any means! besides, Obama wants to give that money to PEOPLE IN AFRICA, WHY NOT THE HOMELESS HERE!
Mike:how do democrats not have a platform? shes inept plain and simple. she. knows. NOTHING. she thinks she can see russia from her house. thats her foreign policy. she has been mayor of um lets see..6000 people in a dead end town in a dead end state? shes governor or a total of about 700,000 people at most. there are are 8million people in NYC. maybe the mayor of NYC should run?
Alex: Eric watch McCain and Palin interviews. All Palin talks about is how much of a maverick she is, and all John McCain does is relate every single topic to war. How he does it I dont know
Eric: he did Mike, but he dropped out along time ago, smart one. what leadership does Obama have??! NOTHING! At least she has kept a town running in Alaska with not a lot of money compared to other states. Biden is a governor too so they have the same position of leadership. McCain has done so much more. yeah he was a rebel, but he changed his life after going into the Navy.
Alex: McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. The only thing he has been a 'maverick' about is things that don't even matter
If he was really different like he says, if he really was 'takin shots from his own party' as Palin said, they wouldn't have nominated him.
Listen to the interview with Katie Couric, Palin couldn't name a single example of McCains deregulation which she claims he is known for.
Mike: biden is a governor of a state that actually matters, sorry to break it to you but alaska isnt all that important. what has mccain done that so great? great he was in vietnam and was a POW but that doesnt mean your qualified to run a country. obama has alot more than mccain, and i think we were talking about palin btw. dont pull a palin on me and change the subject.
Eric: Alex, I have watched them, they back her into a conner and she doesnt know how to respond to it, so she tells the reporter what she has done.
Mike: lol let me list her responses:
let me get back to you
i dont know
(change subject)
you really want that in a leadership position? you really think she is leader material?
Alex: Yea, they ask her damn important questions. Questions about subject she preaches so much about in bashing-Obama speeches, but can't actually survive in a 1 on 1. Why else wouldn't the McCain campaign give her more interviews.
Eric: haha, so you want a muslim to be in the office of the white house! he says that he is a christian, but he went to a muslim bording school as a kid! McCain was in teh NAVY!!!!! you have to be a leader to be in the NAVY he was not some peon on the ship!
Alex: Well now I know we've won the argument. Once someone pulls the Muslim argument you know they have nothing else to say
wow WAY TO BE PREJUDICE. let me update you on obama for you black haters out there ::
RAISED BY SINGLE WHITE MOTHER
MUSLIM FATHER NOT IN THE PICTURE. EVER.
HIS GRANDMOTHER WAS RACIST BUT LOVED HIM
MIDDLE-CLASS HIS WHOLE LIFE.
he worked his way up from shitcreek. theres a difference between leading troops and a nation. and whats so good about the NAVY!! is it his choice if he went to a muslim boarding school?? did he say mama send me to muslim boarding school please. i believe not.
Eric: IM NOT A RACIST, I could care less. its the truth. he is just way to sketchy. plus he DOESNT BELIEVE IN THIS COUNTRY! HE WONT EVEN PUT HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART FOR THE PLEDGE OR WERE AN AMERICAN FLAG PIN!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF PATRIOTISM IS THAT, ITS NOT WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU! HIS WIFE SAID THAT SHE WAS NOT PROUD OF THIS COUNTRY TIL HER HUSBAND WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE! GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!he learned they ways of a muslim, dont you remember the muslims saying that if they cannot destroy America from the outside, the country I love, that they will destroy it from with in! being in the Navy teaches you respect for otehrs and not to back talk, it teaches you to LEAD, IF YOU ARE A LEADER YOU CAN LEAD ANYTHING!
Mike: wow. not all muslims are terrorists rofl. that just takes the cake. where do you get this from? he wont wear flag pin, wont put hand over heart for pledge, his wifes statement? whats next? he practices polygamy? you crack me up specially your last line rofl. and not talking back, whats good about that? why is it bad to question authority? im pretty sure the founding fathers, OF THE COUNTRY YOU LOVE, would want us to question authority. they were rebels FYI. and he "learned the ways of a muslim"?? wtf does that mean? is there some secret muslim way we all are missing out on? if you really believe "IF YOU ARE A LEADER YOU CAN LEAD ANYTHING!" then you really know less than i thought.
CJ: eric shut up ur gay
Eric: this was stated in the begining of the elections. Mike you are a leader in life, that's your a facitilator in PA. ha, if you truely believe that you cant lead anything in your life, you NEVER will become anything Mike. once you learn the skill, it stays with you for life.
Mike: there are different types of leadership.. look at all the failed military commanders who have become political leaders, history is LITTERED with them. when did i ever say i cant lead anything in my life? i like how subject changes from
palin
to mccain
to obama
to attacking me
dude cmon, atleast be somewhat professional.
Eric: im trying, im not attacking you, sorry if it sounded like that, i was infering. you just bring up subjects and i go off on them. I think we should just end this now, because it will just go on for days. sorry Greg.
-about 45 minutes later-
Eric: yeah, it makes you look like an ass, you tough i get it, go beat up some freshmen.
Well..... I think this argument speaks for itself, but I'm curious to hear everyone's input.